The picture at the long hike just had me laughing .I now know how I must look having 2 newfys on a brace lead 6" (y Thingy) on one lead (about 200lbs of black dog. and on the outside on a 2nd leash a 60lb springer. I'm a 5'2" 160lb woman. People really stare at me know I know why. Mine are really good about the walk Dugan (the new guy) is slowly getting the idea .