Webster Springs is about 5 1/2 drive for me too Phred. It 'pears iffen Butch lies raht tween us. Of course that's some pretty serious mountain country so weather would have a lot to do with the drive. When the Zipster gets back online maybe she can provide more details. If I'm going to drive that far (and I'm not saying it's a given yet...) I'm certainly going to want to stop by and visit Grandpa. Even if he doesn't know me, a smooth soft stroke across the brow would probably feel soothing. I'll try to keep up with things but still have that nasty old "work" I'm supposed to be doing. Phooey.