I don't know. In some ways, they seem so smart about their animals. I'd never seen the dogs before, but he's come over and talked to us about them. He seems so bighearted and loving towards them. And he seems like he is very knowledgeable with training. But when I mentioned fixing the dogs, it was as if he'd never heard of such a thing. He was like "Yeah! I should! How much does it cost? Where do I go?"