Unfortunately I cannot steal the cats, because they won't let me near them, they are too scared, run like hell if you get even a little bit close.

The cats actually look quite well considering their lifestyle, I don't know that she de-fleas them or vaccinates, but I would think not, I have never seen her pet them, she did tell me she bought one of the cats for 25 dollars from a pet store, I guess this is Duchess, who must be spayed, otherwise she would have kittens as well, she is the mother of Victoria who has the kittens.

None of the shelters seemed prepared to take them in, so this leaves me in a bind, I have one more place to try yet, so fingers and paws crossed., here's hoping.

I am thinking of offering to pay half the cost of spaying Victoria if she will let me, I cannot afford to pay all of it, or I would, but maybe if she knows its only 20 dollars she may be into it, but who is going to look after her after the operation, that worries me, she will probably just stick her outside straight away.

P.S Tonya she would be horrified if I asked to take her cats away, in her mind she loves them and is a good owner, she just wants the kittens to find homes.