Originally posted by 7up
How would anyone know what percentage of greyhounds went where if the NGA won't even record this information and share it with the public? Do we just wait until jcsperson deems it so with unverifiable "estimates"?

Greyhounds are not registered until they are 1 1/2 years old. Your numbers don't even begin with the actual number whelped.
We have seen adult greyhounds who went into adoption that were never registered at all.

Florida has the largest concentration of greyhounds in the country. According to the adoption people there who work in the trenches, they are not able to take even half of the greyhounds needing to go into adoption each year. What do you suppose those "caring owners" do with the all their dogs?
Jay,

You know better than that. The "adoption people who work in the trenches" have a keyhole view of the overall adoption picture. Are there dogs slipping through the cracks in Florida? You're damn right there are. The Panhandle tracks are the biggest obstacle to full adoption. Do those tracks reflect what is going on at the other Florida tracks or the entire industry? Are half the dogs in Florida put down? Are dogs that can't make it at tracks like Derby Lane/Tampa or Jacksonville/Orange Park, Hollywood/Flagler or Palm Beach put down? Do you know? They're not. Those are top-10 tracks and dogs that grade off at those tracks will be competitive elsewhere.

As usual, Jay, all you can do is snipe. My figures are based on the best information available. They are all estimates, but are still 1000% more scientific than your reference to people who see only the smallest slice of the big picture.

Rock gave you all the reasons why the NGA's breeding/whelping statistics require complete disclosure and accuracy. The numbers of dogs entering the system are clearly known. The number of adoptions can only be an estimate as many are adopted without benefit of an adoption group like 2 of my 5 greyhounds.

Lastly, the fact that there are unregistered greyhounds put into adoption seems to refute GPL's notion that every unregistered pup was "culled," doesn't it? Those buffoons have never figured out that puppy mortality even exists---how can they speak with authority when they don't know the first thing about dogs? If they are willing to lie or exaggrate about that what else do they make up?

FYI, Jay, greyhounds are registered at any age between tattoo (required before three months) and racing. Few people wait until the last minute as you suggest.

I'm a little disappointed in you, Jay. Sometimes we seem to be making some progress educating you, but it often seems a case of "two steps forward and one step back." I never expect you to be PR, but I do expect you to learn from these exchanges. Every time I think you're starting to "get it" you surprise me by going back into the wild supposition mode.

Whether we get any credit from you or not, whether you acknowledge it or not, whether you lie about it or not, 100% adoption is going to occur while you and the ARA crowd are still trying to figure out whether puppy culling exists or how many parts per million of cocaine constitutes abuse.

(NOTE TO OTHERS: Don't take this the wrong way---Jay and I always speak to each other like this )