As far as criminal charges go, I think we can't really base an opinion. We see him, we see the charges. We haven't seen the evidence and we haven't seen the accuser.
I think we need all the info, which I hope the jury will get.
Yes, I think he is guilty of rape
No, I think it was consentual sex
I have no opinion
As far as criminal charges go, I think we can't really base an opinion. We see him, we see the charges. We haven't seen the evidence and we haven't seen the accuser.
I think we need all the info, which I hope the jury will get.
HEY!! We're perfectly OK here in Colorado. It's just when the folks from California show up that things start getting weird.Originally posted by RICHARD
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woo hoo! you tell him catsindenver!
Sorry Richard, just wanted to gang up on you in support of my neighbor to the north.
Originally posted by CatsinDenver
HEY!! We're perfectly OK here in Colorado. It's just when the folks from California show up that things start getting weird.![]()
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LOL!!Originally posted by babolaypo65
woo hoo! you tell him catsindenver!
Sorry Richard, just wanted to gang up on you in support of my neighbor to the north.
it's not the first time i've ended up getting my fanny kicked by a gal or two..
CID,
just remember the next time there is nothing to do in your part of the country.....you'll be begging for us Cal folk to come tripping thru town....
of course, we'll try and keep it on a 'PG' level....![]()
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Nah--too many of y'all end up staying, and that drives the housing prices sky-high!Originally posted by RICHARD
just remember the next time there is nothing to do in your part of the country.....you'll be begging for us Cal folk to come tripping thru town....![]()
Well, they should just move the trial to the sane state of Oregon -
...you know, the home of Tonya Harding, Bob Packwood, the spotted owl, and the only state legistature still in session because those bozos can't figure out that the concept of BALANCED BUDGET means that you can't spend any more money than you have.
As home of the "Jail-Blazers" - ahem, I mean, "Trail Blazers", news of an NBA player in trouble with the law is old news to us.
These are not the droids you were looking for
Gosh, I never thought of that. Having Kobe's trial in Oregon could get your state out of debt.
But wait a minute.......I live in California..........sure, we don't have any budget problems here at all![]()
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Come on Richard, let's get them to change the venue to California and we could be debt free in no time at all.
Originally posted by gini
Gosh, I never thought of that. Having Kobe's trial in Oregon could get your state out of debt.
But wait a minute.......I live in California..........sure, we don't have any budget problems here at all![]()
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Come on Richard, let's get them to change the venue to California and we could be debt free in no time at all.
lol,
I still haven't recovered from the last round of 'celebrity trials'....now that it will cost me 400 dollars to register my truck next time i think we
have the debt pretty well taken care of!
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Together we stand
Divided we fall.
I laugh, therefore? I am.
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The girl obviously didn't have morals sexually if she had multiple partners already. So I cannot imagine her turning him down. What girl wouldn't want him?
The next day,the lightbulb came on, and she thought "Hey, there could be some money in this..."
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Thank you Wolfie!
I have to wonder why a woman goes to a man's hotel room??? To play Monopoly?? I agree the adultery is wrong....but that is not what he is on trial for....
I worry that in some ways the issue of rape is being used against women.... poor helpless things.....the pedulum has swung from it being all the woman's fault to women having no responsibility (before I get ripped I certainly don't mean that for women who are assaulted....this woman WENT to his hotel room....)
Until we get ALL the facts, a determination of true guilt or innocence really can't happen. Things were said and done by both parties that Im sure wouldn't be clasified in the brainy category. Now people are POed at Kobe for being a cheater and people are POed at the woman for being a total slut. Somehow, I think if these people were "blue collar" no one would really care one way or the other...
ITA. Why else would you go to a star athlete’s hotel room. I wouldn't go to any man's hotel room thinking that anything other than sex was going to happen. Duh.Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
I have to wonder why a woman goes to a man's hotel room??? To play Monopoly?? I agree the adultery is wrong....but that is not what he is on trial for....
One of my friends used to argue that women should be allowed to wear anything they want without fear of being raped. Well, yes in a perfect world we should be able to dress as we wish without fear, but IMO if you're baring your rear & chest in public, you're asking for it in the sense that some sicko's going to get mad or turned on by that, and the chances of being raped/attacked increase. It's the same way with going to a man's hotel room. Yes it should be safe, but if you use the noggin God gave you, you should know that anything could happen. Why place yourself in that position by your attire or actions?
Did he rape her? I'll never know, only those two actually know. If she said no, then of course he should have stopped. But there's always the chance that it was consensual. I'm just glad I'm not required to try to decipher all the evidence and try to do right by both parties.![]()
I don't really follow the news and I follow things like this even less frequently. But, I will say that I think wearing revealing or sexy clothing to a club is far less "suggestive" than going into a man's hotel room. Just my opinion that they're not even the same thing.
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sirrahbed,
I agree with you.
I watched on the news 2 days ago, that
for the first time since 1974 stats came in
and show an all time low of rapes being
reported in Colorado. This case is having an impact
on rape victims whether he is guilty or not, because
of how this case has and is being handled.
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I can't read this whole thread! But I read a lot.
I believe the allegedly raped woman is old enough to know that when you go to a man's room alone, anything can happen- and that just by going to the room, that is saying "I am open to anything" Which may be a sad statement on our society but if your gonna be stupid....( how many women here would go to a married man's room and not know it meant sex?)
I just think we have taught our girls to be smart by now. You go to a hotel room with a man, Hello- it means sex. Now, if she was surprised by it and said no, then that of course is wrong for him to push himself on her.
She does seem savvy enough though to know how to call a man's intentions..
He may have raped her- we'll never know- since I didn't read the whole thread- did she go to the hospital and have a rape kit done on her?
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