Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
land that spawned Osama bin Ladin and won't let me drive a car in their country!


The soldiers are brave, they have cojones. How many off-spring of congresspersons/presidents/vice-presidents/cabinet members are serving?????*


*one
I don't blame Saudi Arabia for not letting you drive your car there....It probably needs a wash.

Not that I am volunteering or anything.

I made a bet with a gal to wash her car if I was wrong about another bet. She has yet to get back to me about it.

I 'bet' Scarlett O'Hara would concede the wager.




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Congressional Children in War
Deceits 53-56

Early in this segment, Moore states that "out of the 535 members of Congress, only one had an enlisted son in Iraq." The action of the segment consists of Moore
accosting Congressmen to try to convince them to have their children enlist in the military. At the end, Moore declares, “Not a single member of Congress wanted to
sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq.”

Moore’s second statement is technically true, but duplicitous. Of course no-one would want to “sacrifice” his child in any way. But the fact is, Moore's opening
("only one") and his conclusion ("not a single member") are both incorrect. Sergeant Brooks Johnson, the son of South Dakota Democratic Senator Tim Johnson,
serves in the 101st Airborne Division and fought in Iraq in 2003. The son of California Republican Representative Duncan Hunter quit his job after September 11,
and enlisted in the Marines; his artillery unit was deployed in the heart of insurgent territory in February 2004. Delaware Senator Joseph Biden's son Beau is on
active duty in the Judge Advocate General Corps; although Beau Biden has no control over where he is deployed, he has not been sent to Iraq, and therefore does
not "count" for Moore's purposes. Seven members of Congress have been confirmed to have children in the military.

How about Cabinet members? Fahrenheit never raises the issue, because the answer would not fit Moore’s thesis. Attorney General John Ashcroft’s son is serving
on the U.S.S. McFaul in the Persian Gulf.

Why not count Duncan Hunter's son? Note the phrasing: "only one had an enlisted son in Iraq." Although Hunter's son "enlisted" in the Marines, he is a Second
Lieutenant, which means that he is above the rank of an "enlisted man." But why hide from the viewers how many Congressmen really have sons serving in the
military in Iraq?

The editing of the Congressional scenes borders on the fraudulent:

….Representative Kennedy (R-MN), one of the lawmakers accosted in Fahrenheit 9/11, was censored by Michael Moore.
According to the [Minneapolis] Star Tribune, Kennedy, when asked if he would be willing to send his son to Iraq, responded by stating that he had
a nephew who was en-route to Afghanistan. He went on to inform Moore that his son was thinking about a career in the navy and that two of his
nephews had already served in the armed forces. Kennedy’s side of the conversation, however, was cut from the film, leaving him looking bewildered
and defensive.
What was Michael’s excuse for trimming the key segment? Kennedy’s remarks didn’t help his thesis: “He mentioned that he had a nephew that was
going over to Afghanistan,” Moore recounted. “So then I said ‘No, no, that’s not our job here today. We want you to send your child to Iraq. Not a
nephew.’”
Kennedy lambasted Moore as a “master of the misleading” after viewing the interview in question.

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Most Senators and Congressfolks are past the 'child bearing' years....It reminds me of my job, I have worked with some doctor's kids....while most were pleasant, I met a few that made me wish for a screaming hemorrhoid rather than spending 10 more minutes in their presence. Why would a politico's kid be any different????

I'm sure the Services wouldn't mind a few Kerrys or Bushes to carry the sword.


Did I say guts???? You are six inches too far nortH