Yikes, seems this turned into a big debate!

I gave my opinions, but I would like to say that I dont think docking OR cropping is defined as "cruel" cruel would be a bit different, because they heal from both of these things, they forget them, and theyre still happy, healthy dogs, and I dont think its cruel for people to want them to look standard

And like fox-gal said, about her boxers, Jasper also would clear tables, whip people, get his tail caught in doors...etc if he didnt have it docked, and he was only 4 days old, it hurt for a second, there was no bone or anything, he forgot it in a bit and I dont think thats cruel at all, and its better then getting a home/self docking with a door...