K9soul- I understand where your coming from.

As for Golden n' Kfamr- What you n' I cosider cruel may be different. I'll get you an incite. What "I" consider cruel is cutting the dogs ears n' not even put under, beating your dog, starving them, etc. The dog is put under, so they don't fell any pain till they get up. They come home n' the only thing that bothered my dog was his "POST." You can also get pain pills to prevent them from having pain n' believe me....I did. So don't try n' argue with me....Thank you. See these are the people that don't like a person like me...b/c they believe I put my dog in a cruel position.
And Golden- Thats good you know everyone has their own opinion.....so why did you even ask??
And Kfamr- I don't need someone to repeat thangs...