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  1. #1
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    I think I'm going to order the Wellness stuff. He's been itching bad again and the shampoo isn't working this time. Maybe this food will help. Thanks so much for telling me about it!

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    I can't find the thread, but Micki or Parnone will probably tell you all about it.
    I've been BOO'd!

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    Originally posted by Uabassoon
    If anyone here is interested in switching over to a brand that is 100% cruelty free I highly recomment Wysong. I recently switched over from Science Diet to Wysong and have had a really good experience. Not only is it 100% cruelty free but the ingredients are all human grade, no hormones or chemicals. Send me a PM if you have any questions.
    Thanks so much for this tip. Do you know if they make Dog
    and Cat foods? I believe many folks would be willing to switch
    brands if shown the other choices available. Thanks for the info.
    I've Been Boo'd

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    Originally posted by lizbud
    Thanks so much for this tip. Do you know if they make Dog
    and Cat foods? I believe many folks would be willing to switch
    brands if shown the other choices available. Thanks for the info.
    Yes, they make both dog and cat foods.
    Wysong Website: www.wysong.net


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    The moment I deced I would NEVER buy Iams is when I read this paragraph

    Not For the Weak Stomach!!

    "Our investigator videotaped Iams dogs being dumped on cold concrete flooring after having huge chunks of muscle cut out of their thighs; a co-worker instructing her to hit the dogs on the chest if they quit breathing; another co-worker talking about an Iams dog found dead in his cage, bleeding from his mouth; a dog limping in pain from Lyme disease; cruel studies done by Iams involving sticking tubes down dogs' throats to force them to ingest vegetable oil; Iams dogs with such severe tartar buildup on their teeth that it was painful for them to eat; vet technicians with inadequate training and experience performing invasive procedures; two co-workers conducting a pregnancy test on a terrified dog lying on top of a cart with wheels that moved every time she struggled; dogs and cats gone stir crazy from confinement; dogs and cats in windowless, dungeon-like buildings; co-workers talking about the live kitten who was washed down a drain; co-workers talking about how they had to go home because the ammonia fumes in the animal trailers were so overpowering that it made their eyes burn (try being one of the animals in those cages!); and cats kept in a cinderblock room with crude wooden "resting" boards that had nails sticking out of them. One of the boards fell on a cat, crushing her to death, while our investigator was there. The lab director did not remove the boards when the cat was crushed but he did remove them when he was told the lab was going to be inspected because he knew they were illegal."

    http://www.uncaged.co.uk/news/2003/iams.htm

    Some more Links

    These pictures are heart brakeing, not graphic at all!
    http://www.iamscruelty.com/iams.html

    Another site
    http://www.moggies.co.uk/html/iams.html

    If your are STILL in Doubt or want to learn more about the cruelty PLEASE read this site which will give you some in-sight into what heppens.

    http://www.animalliberation.com.au/n...ws6June2k1.htm


    Ashley


    ps: This is Funny, I revently sent an email to Paws With a Cause who incorages all puppy raisers to feed there puppies Iams (BLAH), informning them of what Iams does.
    Dogs: Nova, Konnor and Sitka

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    I Personally feed Chicken Soup. I love it!


    Ashley
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    I know about this one...

    Liz, I read about it in the PETA magazine (an interesting read, regardless of your opinion of PETA) and was disgusted. My furrbaby Randi has a VERY delicate tummy and for awhile all we could feed him is IAMS because it's the only one that doesn't make him sick. He cannot eat raw meat or mushy food at all.

    At the moment, I am enduring diahorrea all over the laundry floor and plaintative meows (he hates the food he's on at the moment and is also a bit uncomfortable) until we can find an alternative. Jen has suggested the science diet delicate tummy which I will give a try. But, if nothing works, I may will (unfortunately) have to go back to IAMS (kicking and screaming) because my little boy can't suffer because of his meowmie's principles.

    Pray that the science diet and other options work!!!!!!!!! I hate Procter and Gamble with a passion and would gladly avoid something on the basis that it is owned by those unscrupulous, greedy devils.

    Mum to two little humans, a very vocal 14 year old Ragdoll, and a super energetic and snuggly rescue kitten.

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    Science diet?

    Whups! I guess this is out too. Well, that leaves no pet food brands left in Australia - except the supermarket stuff, but that makes Randi REALLY SICK!

    What is a meowmie to do?

    Mum to two little humans, a very vocal 14 year old Ragdoll, and a super energetic and snuggly rescue kitten.

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    IttyBittyKitty,

    If you feel you can't support a boycott because of health
    issues with your kitty, why not send a letter to express how
    Iams's practice of doing this cruel, pointless "testing" & surgical
    procedures on animals. What's the point, except to use the
    "tested research" phrase in advertizing their product over others.

    My God, this isn't rocket science here, it's dog & cat food. Medical
    science and dog food makers know exactly what vitamins &
    minerals are needed for good nutrition for animals. People who
    want Iams to change their practice of animal abuse can at least
    write, or email & show their disapproval. I think it could make
    a big difference for the animals.
    I've Been Boo'd

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    Today is the oldest you've ever been, and the youngest you'll ever be again.

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    I feed Wellness, and I've had fabulous luck with it! The dogs are both shinier and overall healthier looking, and when I got my grandma to switch her kitty to it, the kitty's persistant Urinary Tract infections disappeared!

    FYI: While Colgate does currently test on animals, they are also researching new, better ways to conduct their experiments in the hopes that in a few years they won't have to use animals in their tests anymore. Perhaps the people who buy their pet foods will help fund a huge breakthrough...

    Thank you Wolf_Q!

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    I emailed the Iams people today and used the link to this thread in asking them to please defend and give us the most updated information on their research procedures. Many of the reports posted were prior to their announcements in April and July. I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt and have them respond to me directly about their current procedures. I have a person, on the GR board, whose husband works for Iams and has for a long time. She contends that a lot of this is false. I want to hear the most updated information from Iams themselves.

    I have used Iams products in the past, and continue to use their dog biscuits, although I have changed my dog and cat food to Flint River Ranch (more for convenience than anything else). My dogs did fine on Iams, although I was sickened by what I saw on those videos, many months ago. I don't want any animal to suffer as a result of their testing (or anyone's testing).

    If I get a response, and surely I will, I will be gladly post it here.

    Logan

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    Good idea Logan. Do you think they'll give you the true or whole story? My experience with large companies is that they only tell you what they want you to know. Kind of like Petland pet store....now THERE'S another thread all together.


    Don't buy while shelter dogs die!!

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    Good idea Logan. Why don't we all email or snail mail a letter
    to IAMS.


    Jeffrey P. Ansell, President
    Iams Company
    7250 Poe Ave.
    Dayton, OH 45414-5801
    1-800-675-3849
    937-898-7387
    [email protected]


    Then we can all compare notes later. Do you really expect a
    truthful response? Please, let's all do this and see what kind
    of answers we get, o.k.? Won't cost us anything. Thank you.
    I've Been Boo'd

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    I forgot about our PT members in Canada and the U K.

    Jeffrey P. Ansell, President
    Iams Company
    7250 Poe Ave.
    Dayton, OH 45414-5801
    1-800-675-3849
    937-898-7387
    [email protected]

    A.G. Lafley, CEO
    Procter & Gamble Co.
    1 Procter & Gamble Plz.
    Cincinnati, OH 45202
    1-800-543-1745

    Bill Miller, Director of Sales
    Iams Canada
    920 Gana Ct.
    Mississauga, ON L5S 1Z4
    1-800-658-5657 (press 5 for the name directory)
    905-565-4711 (fax)

    Managing Director
    Iams UK Ltd.
    Proctor & Gamble
    The Heights, Brooklands Weybridge
    Surrey KT13 0XP
    UK: +44 (0)116 282 1000
    I've Been Boo'd

    I've been Frosted






    Today is the oldest you've ever been, and the youngest you'll ever be again.

    Eleanor Roosevelt

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    I don't know what to expect, if anything. But as I said in my message to them that this is the time to step up with factual information. If things that are reported aren't true, then they need to get the word out, with something to back it up, not just a bunch of "junk", "feel good" words. We'll see.

    I want to believe that there is not way that they are continuing what we have seen in those videos and reports, but there is no way to know for sure.

    I will definitely let you know if/when they respond to my message. I even gave them my home phone number to feel free to call me to discuss if they like.

    Logan

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