I adivise some of you to read before you write, some people are jumping to the conclusion that my dogs NEVER see a vet, when all I said was that they dont go for every little thing nor do they go annually, if something was horrably wrong we would take them to our vet, yes we have one, a HOLISTIC vet. when we do take them to the vet for titres and their PARVO shot as a pup. yes their parvo shot, that is all they get, however, and not until 16 weeks of age. also when it comes to border collies, a good breeder with working dogs will NOT vaccinate the pups why?? so that only the strong survive to keep the breed healthy unlike most other breeds, BC's are som eof the healthiest around and that is the reason for it.