ok, when I got home, after I fed my five, I went in to check on the 2 new ones... and one was so friendly! no more hissing, just a lovable kitty, rubbed against my legs and meowed, and meowed more! then he turned over and let me rub his tummy! still did not want to be picked up, but thats ok... and the other one never came out from under the bed... but I peeked again, he's ok. after a while I left them alone again.. . and then Patches and the one that was still hiding, were looking at each other... my bedroom glass doors and the glass doors in the den face each other with a common patio... so they could see each other! I think they were looking at one another for quite some time by time I noticed this... I went over to Patches and pet him, and talked to him and then he got up, and oh he had to stretch! you know how they do after they have been in the same position for a long time?

names? well I like Jack and Oscar. I think the white/tan/black one will be Jack and the orange and white one wil be Oscar (the grouch LOL)

will post pics as soon as I can...