Why is Cheeko so difficult.. ughhh

[tikeyas_mom]

I am sorry your rat died, but it is different when you are tamming a bird rather then a rodent. WAYY different, Birds are way harder to tame. i tamed so many rats, mice, hamsters, but I could never tame my birds, I guess I am just not a bird person. The reson I posed this was because I wanted to know OTHER ways to tame birds that might work for me. PCB ways didnt work So i have to find another way to train theem that will work.

[tikeyas_mom]

How nice, a rabbit killed by a dog, and a bird attacked by a dog. How sweet!! If that happened to me, I'd peck my owners eyes out.

You got this all wrong,

Cheeko was bitten befor He was even my bird, he was my moms, I never even played with him, I was like 11. The dog that bit Cheeko was a malamute named Jagger *RIP* and The dog that killed my rabbit was Tikeya *siberian husky* ... It isnt my fault Cheeko got bitten, We wernt even home when it happend.

[tikeyas_mom]

I dont blam cheeko ither, I just cannot figure out what I can do to help him relate to ppl better.

Maybe I should just leave him be.

[NoahsMommy]

Um...you said the bird belonged to your mom before you had it. Did your mom live somewhere else??

Your bird sounds VERY unhappy. I would imagine that with all the things that happened at your house, he would be VERY scared. I feel very sorry for him.

He CAN sense any frustration or any negative feelings you have...even when you aren't in the same room. Have you done your research on his breed?

Have you talked to your vet about this?

EDIT: I need to add something. You said your bird hisses. We've had cockatiels my entire life and I've NEVER heard them hiss, ever. That really concerns me your bird is constantly scared.

[Nomilynn]

Originally posted by popcornbird
If this is true, its even MORE your fault. How in the world could you leave home without securing your bird in a safe room when there's a dog in the house?!?!?!

Birds are NOT difficult to tame. Not at all. This girl I know was the EXACT same as you. She was constantly complaining of how her two 5 year old budgies were mean, would bite, were crazy, wouldn't trust her, and were impossible to tame. I got so fed up with her complaining that I asked if I could visit them. She said sure and I went to their house for just 2 hours. I spent just 2 hours working with her birds (who were btw very sweet and not wild at all as she always said they were) and they were fully tame and playing on her shoulder by the time I went home. People like you seriously don't have a clue of what they are doing and then blame the poor animal. A cockatiel NEVER hisses unless it is frightened. Only a spooked cockatiel will hiss. Your bird is obviously afraid of something. THAT'S why he's hissing. THAT'S why he won't trust you. You aren't helping him to trust you. If I were him and I went through all that he went through, honestly, I wouldn't trust you either. You bird is not impossible to tame. I've tamed over 10 birds of all ages with that method and they ALL got tame. You are not doing it right. A bird like Cheeko that has been through so much needs time. It can tame months to tame such a frightened bird. You do it for one day and start whining that it doesn't work. You do NOT know what you are doing and Cheeko is terrified. Poor baby. I can't imagine how he's feeling and on top of that being accused of being mean and impossible to tame. If you did what I told you to properly, for 2-3 months, EVERYDAY, you should have had a sweetie by now. Unfortunately, you are not willing to spend time with your bird. I feel sorry for him.

Ps. There's no difference in your mom's bird and your bird. You live in the same house with the same animals. Cheeko is a family pet and you are all responsible for his fear and behavior.

PCB, I totally agree with you here. Honestly I think the bird is sensing the frustration and lashing out. My bet is that you could tame this bird no problem. I also agree with the family pet theory, and I think you have hit this bang on. Good post

[wolf_Q]

Good post PCB.

[shais_mom]

Good Post PCB!
If there ever is any question about care of birds, you are the person to come too. Maybe she should just send Cheeko to you!!! I think that would be the best scenario.
T.M Maybe the reason the wolf_q is rude to you is b/c she along with others sees a pattern to your posts. No reason to be hatey or send hatey messages.

[tikeyas_mom]

for 2-3 months, EVERYDAY, you should have had a sweetie by now. Unfortunately, you are not willing to spend time with your bird. I feel sorry for him.

Well he's not.

[tikeyas_mom]

Have you done your research on his breed?

yes.

I dont blame cheeko. Jag was outsidee and he brok through the door and knocked down Cheekos cage.

I also agree with your post PCB,, But I try and try.. nothing works.

My cockatiel hisses at everything, Air, water, the mirror, my, my brothers, my mom, dad, dog, cat, Spanky, his own reflection. He has big issues, i dont know what to do but let him be because palying or tamming him I find maks him more stressed. out.

[tikeyas_mom]

I am more then willing to spend time with him, today was the first time i didnt. because i am just stressing him out more..

[CathyBogart]

Why not try and get an avian behaviorist to come over to your house? Buy or at least check out the book "Guide to a Well-Behaved Parrot".

Your original post didn't sound much like a request for help, more like you just wanted to complain about your bird.

There is only one bird at work that I haven't been able to make any progress with from just a few minutes of work three days a week, and I didn't even like birds until just recently.

Maybe you need to give it a rest with him for awhile until you aren't going to go in to working with him expecting him to fail. If you are expecting him to fail, he will. Birds aren't that complicated, they just have a different way of communicating what they're thinking and feeling.



Also: people HAVE been offering you advice IN THIS THREAD, but you keep insisting that you have "tryed" everything that people have suggested!!

[CathyBogart]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
The dog that killed my rabbit was Tikeya *siberian husky*

How is her breed an excuse for you allowing her to be in a situation where she could kill another pet?

My dog is half husky and half Coyote. In most situations this would be a recipe for disaster in my book, but my dog also has been blessed with maternal instinct to the extreme. She actually used to groom my blind Mini Lop doe.

Still, I am never careless enough to leave Star in any situation where she could even inadvertently kill another of my pets, and she is certainly never allowed anywhere near them unsupervised. When I had outdoor rabbits I carefully fenced off their entire portion of the yard, including from the top, because Star is an excellent climber.

[Jessica12345]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
he is just phyco path bird, he flys into walsl and EVERYTHING. I am affraid he'll kill him self

Maybe I should just leave him be.

ya know i really dont get you.

[Logan]

When any animal shows fear, whether it be a dog, cat, bird, whatever, it takes a lot of patience to turn that fear around. We have two fearful animals in our house, our Golden Retriever, Honey, and our Cockatiel, Milly. We have learned to cautiously approach them, not to startle them, and provide them the calmest best environment that we can. I don't think Milly or Honey will ever be truly comfortable, but we love them to pieces and accept their personalities the way they are.

Milly hisses on occasion. But I have learned her moods and I have learned to live with her quirks. What I don't do is try to force her into any situation that makes her uncomfortable. She doesn't like us to get her out of her cage, so we let her climb out on her own. She adores our other bird, Roger, and only wants to be near him. They have separate cages, but spend most of their time out of their cages, eating and preening each other, as well as singing to each other. She has learned to "step up" onto my finger and now she is even learning to fly over to my shoulder. We NEVER expose her or Roger to any of our other animals (cats and dogs). We have been working with Milly for almost a year now, but her background is unknown, except that she was basically ignored for a long, long time.

Milly and Roger love leafy green lettuce. They love pasta too, and their newest thing to love is Total Cereal and Cheerios (thank you PCB).

The point of this epistle is that I think you need to settle down, and understand that this bird may not be exactly what you want him to be, but he can be happy and satisfied, and you CAN befriend him, but just maybe not in the way you want to. I would definitely keep his wings clipped so that he can't fly and injure himself. That will cause him to be even more frightened. Play soft music during the day in the room where he is. And KEEP him isolated from the dogs and other animals. Spend time with him, even if you're just in the room talking with him and doing something else.

I hope that you will learn to love him, regardless of his personality, and do your best to make him feel safe.

We all can't have the wonderful, personable birds that Popcornbird has, but we can enjoy the ones we do have and provide them love, warmth, good things to eat and toys to play with. Remember, Popcorn and Muffin are Popcornbird's only pets and she spends a tremendous amount of time with them. They didn't get to be the way they are overnight.

Logan

[shellonabeach]

Just going off what you would do with a horse or cat in this kind of situation but maybe you should get the vet check out Cheeko.

He could have some physical problem making him hurt and therefore giving him a bad temper, it could be something that without a through check over could be missed. It could be something that makes it hurt when you try to hold him. Especially if he suffered a dog attack once.

Once you have ruled out physical problems (at the vet, use your money saved up for the hedgehog) then work on the mental ones.

My horse was snappy for no reason one winter, we got the vet out and it turns out he had pulled a muscle in his neck probably through using a haynet, we had the horsey chiropracter come and see him and within no time he was back to his old self.