Gun control discussion

[RICHARD]

Why trace an innocuous object like a printer? Create another black market? Someone with a mill, a lathe and a little skill could make guns in their home as it is if they were determined to.

It's not the tool, it's the sick individual behind the trigger you have to worry about.

We keep non-violent offenders in jail for comparatively heavy sentences for possession and possession with intent, but people who get jailed for violent crimes serve light sentences.

There's a whole bunch of things wrong with society, the availability of firearms of whatever sort isn't the problem. Banning firearms to reduce violent crimes is like putting a bandaid on a severed limb, stepping back, posing for the cameras and saying "there, all better, we fixed the problem!"

Does anyone still make zipguns? Homemade guns! I saw one made from a car antenna and rubber bands, the other made from billet steel- both were ingenious designs and the car antenna model was easy to make.

The steel gun was made from one piece of steel by a guy that worked in a machine shop and unless you knew what you were looking at, you'd never realize it was a gun.

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Now that there is a 'plastic gun' you have to look at all the problems it brings.

Just like a Xerox machine, there will be ways to track who buys it - either through sales/repair records.

Just like the sale of the meds that make meth, you probably will have to show some kind of ID to buy materials to make a gun?

You'll have to register the down loads of the program and how will they be tracked? The same way pirated music is tracked and those laws enforced?


Then you have to look at the viability of making a gun that probably won't last more than a few shots, has to be reloaded after each shot and may blow up in your face.

Although a disposable plastic gun makes certain crimes easier, I would not want to get into a shootout with one.

Something about watching Wile E. Coyote having a gun blow up in face that makes me hesitate.

[Lady's Human]

Lost in all the media sensationalism.....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,3022693.story

Gun crime has plunged in the United States since its peak in the middle of the 1990s, including gun killings, assaults, robberies and other crimes, two new studies of government data show.

[cassiesmom]

Now that there is a 'plastic gun' you have to look at all the problems it brings.

I've read about the plastic gun. I heard on the news that they're using a similar type of copier technology to develop tissue for burn patients and children born with malformations of their ears. But my question is this: if the gun is plastic, will it be able to pass through a metal detector without being picked up? Would the manufacturer have to "tag" it somehow?

[Lady's Human]

The "manufacturer" would be anyone with a 3-d printer, and basic computer skills. The ammo, however, would still show up on a metal detector. Without ammo, the firearm is useless. (Unless of course you have some of the experimental rounds that the Army was using in one test variant of the M-16, but the bullets were still metal, even though the casings and primer were plastic)

[blue]

Any USA citizen can manufacture a firearm legally, as long as it isnt for sale, without a serial number or "tag". This is true without using a 3D printer. I could make an AK-47 out of a shovel and it would be completely legal. No 3D printer needed.

[Lady's Human]

Any USA citizen can manufacture a firearm legally, as long as it isnt for sale, without a serial number or "tag". This is true without using a 3D printer. I could make an AK-47 out of a shovel and it would be completely legal. No 3D printer needed.

The difference is that most people would be physically incapable of making an AK out of anything besides a pile of AK parts.

What has the Brady bunch in a tither is that with 3-d printers anyone who can press the "print" button on a PC can make one.

[cassiesmom]

What has the Brady bunch in a tither is that with 3-d printers anyone who can press the "print" button on a PC can make one.

Anyone who can hit "print" on a PC and happens to have access to a 3-D printer. I can picture it now... a few days of someone staying at work late and bam, there are more guns on the streets.

In Maryland they passed a law requiring new gun owners to submit digital fingerprints to the state police. I heard on the news that Beretta and the NRA plan to challenge the law in court after it goes into effect October 1. I don't see the problem. They want their products to wind up in the hands of responsible gun owners, and responsible gun owners will get fingerprinted. Got a problem with that? Exhibit A: Hadiya Pendleton, who won't get to go to college. Exhibit B: Jonylah Watkins, who will never get to take her first steps.

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Exhibit A: Hadiya Pendleton, who won't get to go to college. Exhibit B: Jonylah Watkins, who will never get to take her first steps.

Where not killed by responsible firearm owners.

[Lady's Human]

Anyone who can hit "print" on a PC and happens to have access to a 3-D printer. I can picture it now... a few days of someone staying at work late and bam, there are more guns on the streets.

In Maryland they passed a law requiring new gun owners to submit digital fingerprints to the state police. I heard on the news that Beretta and the NRA plan to challenge the law in court after it goes into effect October 1. I don't see the problem. They want their products to wind up in the hands of responsible gun owners, and responsible gun owners will get fingerprinted. Got a problem with that? Exhibit A: Hadiya Pendleton, who won't get to go to college. Exhibit B: Jonylah Watkins, who will never get to take her first steps.

How would the fingerprinting law have helped either child?

The perps who killed them didn't acquire the guns legally.