Gun control discussion

[Lady's Human]

If you ban ammo sales you better follow that by banning sales of lead and lead alloys, smelting pots, swagers, molds, ad nauseum.

And regardless of how much you ban, ammunition will still be produced by private parties.

[RICHARD]

Wordage makes me laugh.

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I love it when people on one side of an arguement gets blindsided by key phrases.

You have the anti gun yo-yos who think that a ban of 'assault style weapons' will cut down on murders.

You then have the NRA yo-yos that will go with the ban and get around it by changing the look of an ASW.

I believe assault rifle is just as deadly as a cheap arse .32. You may not be able to shoot one million bullets with one trigger pull, but what is the difference?

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Ban ASWs, large capacity mags and what happens next?

Someone shows up with a bigger bag of guns...

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Sheeple will go along with a ban on LCMs and that will be fine and dandy.

When I see the guy walk into the store/shop/theater with a rifle, I know things are going to get ugly - quickly. But I know that he has a low capacity magazine, so I have a chance to run.

But, what about the idiot with the messenger bag with a couple of pistols, extra mags and the idea that he's going to shoot up the place?

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Whatever band-aid fixes there are to the gun buying laws, there still be some kid shooting his brother in mom and dad's bedroom, an innocent by-stander killed in a drive by or a cop gunned down at a traffic stop.

It's not the guns, its the people handling them.

[Edwina's Secretary]

So there you have it. Nothing will work shout the naysayers! So we should do....nothing.

Until of course, the next mass execution of innocents.

At which time we will again nash our teeth and moan and complain.

And do nothing. Because the naysayers say nothing will work.

How sad. I thought we are a nation that is creative and innovative and "get it done?"

Nope. We will continue to curse the darkness instead of lighting a candle.

[Lady's Human]

So there you have it. Nothing will work shout the naysayers! So we should do....nothing.

Until of course, the next mass execution of innocents.

At which time we will again nash our teeth and moan and complain.

And do nothing. Because the naysayers say nothing will work.

How sad. I thought we are a nation that is creative and innovative and "get it done?"

Nope. We will continue to curse the darkness instead of lighting a candle.

Actually, if you go back several pages, a suggestion was made.

However, it didn't involve your personal goal, so you ignored it and replied with your usual snark about a typo.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Actually, if you go back several pages, a suggestion was made.

However, it didn't involve your personal goal, so you ignored it and replied with your usual snark about a typo.

Well if there is anyone who knows "snark" it is you!

(Just for fun...apparently you consider it "snark" when I correct you about the name of a law...is it also "snark" when you correct people about - well everything?)

But of course! It must have been a suggestion that involves your personal goal.

If you are referring to doing something about mentally unhealthy people getting guns - I don't disagree. Of course who will define mentally unhealthy is the challenge. (I will volunteer.) What's more - no
background checks are required when buying guns at gun shows - among other "loopholes." So mentally unstable person will not be prevented from buying guns at gun shows even if HIPAA allows access to mental health records. And of course, they can just "borrow" mom or dad's guns - or get a friend to buy for them.

There are many things that can be done to reduce this national problem - but among them has to be controls on guns.

[Lady's Human]

Straw purchases are illegal and result in federal time for the purchaser. (unless, of course, the straw purchase has been blessed off in advance by a federal agency, right Whitey?)

The "Gun show loophole" is both overstated and misreported. Dealers at gun shows are required to do NICS checks on purchasers, just like they are required anywhere else. The sole exception to NICS checks involves private party to private party sales, which in many states still involve NICS checks.

Guns are already controlled. The notion that it's just the wild west out there and you can just run into your local hardware store and plunk down a sawbuck and walk out with a gun is largely just that....a myth. It's one that certain parties prefer to portray as fact, but it's a myth.

How's gun control working for Chicago? NYC? While we're at it, how'd prohibition go? The war on drugs?

Yeah, bans and strict controls work ever so well.

[blue]

but among them has to be controls on guns.

Yeah, bans and strict controls work ever so well.

Prohibition work well for us.