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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    I'm going to get flamed for saying this, but I've hit the point of not caring one whit.

    There are many, many things about Canadian law, the laws of the Euro zone, and other places that frankly I don't like.

    Ya know what? I don't live there.

    The laws don't affect me.

    As such, I don't comment on the internal politics of other nations unless it has a direct, material effect on the United States.

    Our Constitution has no material effect on Canada or the UK. (Miss Z, this isn't aimed at you in any way, shape or form). It's our peculiar document.

    Leave its workings to the people it effects.
    We did steal the music to "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" from the brits.......So, they may have a point?

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    I read in the paper that school has resumed and the kids are being driven to a vacant school in a nearby town. It didn't say how long they would continue to use that building but I think it's good that they were able to get it ready quickly.

    And sadly, that the first few funerals for the children have been scheduled. The local funeral home is going to be very busy between now and Christmas.
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    Statement from the NRA

    N.R.A. STATEMENT:
    The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.
    Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.
    The N.R.A. is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.
    The N.R.A. is planning to hold a major news conference in the Washington, D.C., area on Friday, December 21.
    Details will be released to the media at the appropriate time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    We did steal the music to "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" from the brits.......So, they may have a point?
    It's not like that's our national anthem, and besides, that tune existed long before our country did, and t is in good musical tradition to borrow old tunes for new uses. The author of the tune is unknown, and it may originate in plainchant, but a 1619 attribution to John Bull is sometimes made. So no one is even sure who write the tune!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    It's not like that's our national anthem, and besides, that tune existed long before our country did, and t is in good musical tradition to borrow old tunes for new uses. The author of the tune is unknown, and it may originate in plainchant, but a 1619 attribution to John Bull is sometimes made. So no one is even sure who write the tune!
    The Star-Spangled Banner is set to the tune of a popular British song written by John Stafford Smith for the Anacreontic Society, a men's social club in London.

    So despite the xenophobics/chauvinists - Fortress America has borrowed freely and interacted frequently!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    The Star-Spangled Banner is set to the tune of a popular British song written by John Stafford Smith for the Anacreontic Society, a men's social club in London.

    So despite the xenophobics/chauvinists - Fortress America has borrowed freely and interacted frequently!

    And exactly who is a xenophobe or a chauvinist?
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    I've been following these threads since the first one and I find something so wrong with this whole picture.
    What in h*ll is wrong with everyone? Fighting about gun control and it just gets more and more insulting and vicious at times. Who gives a shiat about gun control right now...for one thing gun control won't change anything...it's the idiot or sicko behind the gun and not the gun that kills.

    Is everyone forgetting that 20 babies were killed and 8 adults? Why is no one even mentioning this sad fact and discussing this instead of gun control--right now the only thing I can think of are those poor little innocent kids , babies in my opinion, it brings tears to my eyes each time I hear more about it on the news.

    The kid had Asperger's and the mom had ms...why did she have guns in the house in the first place is the only thing I can think of.She was home schooling him, did she ignore the signs...did he shoot his own mother to save her from her cruel disease? I would be more interested in knowing the cause and never mind gun control...any person wanting to kill can get a gun whether they are banned or not.
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    Sparks-- I wanted to thank you for the lovely post, it made me feel so much better to read something so beautiful...

    And momoffuzzyfaces I totally agree with you--this was my first thought also to prevent this from happening again.
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    Asiel, don't believe everything you hear in the media, last I knew it was just anecdotal reports that the kid has Aspergers, and I did not see anywhere mentioned that the mother had MS. Some reports say "autistic," others say "Aspergers" but none of it was confirmed or diagnosed, just different people's opinions. This thread is just for the gun control side of things, there is another thread "the I am Adam Lanza's Mother" thread that touches more on the mental health side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Asiel, don't believe everything you hear in the media, last I knew it was just anecdotal reports that the kid has Aspergers, and I did not see anywhere mentioned that the mother had MS. Some reports say "autistic," others say "Aspergers" but none of it was confirmed or diagnosed, just different people's opinions. This thread is just for the gun control side of things, there is another thread "the I am Adam Lanza's Mother" thread that touches more on the mental health side.
    Karen I wasn't going by the media-- I know how they can exagerate stuff. The Asperger's has been diagnosed , and it's another form of autism, very different as matter of fact. All degrees of it. And yes, the mother did have ms...that was also confirmed and not in the media. Yes I did follow the media but it was mostly because of the kids and the sadness of the whole thing., there was just a mass shooting in a movie theatre and I did follow the story but it didn't really have the same impact---where kids are concerned ( and I considered these babies) then that throws me over the edge.
    I wasn't pointing a finger at anyone in particular, probably just the ones that were bickering and arguing.
    Like I said...momoffuzzyfaces seems to have come up with the sanest answer.

    I did read the "I am Adam Lanza's Mother" -- it's sad that mental illness is never considered important enough to take it seriously.
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