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    One last thing, how can we sit and talk about loving our neighbors when we are all exchanging such vitriol and disdain towards each other We should be embracing each other instead of arguing. I know this post may be met with opposition but I just don't have it in me at this time to fight.
    The continuation of this thread by certain individuals is all about vitriol, condescension and self righteousness.

    I have asked in the past that certain parties refrain from using tragedies to push a political agenda, and have been told in no uncertain terms to go to hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    The continuation of this thread by certain individuals is all about vitriol, condescension and self righteousness.

    I have asked in the past that certain parties refrain from using tragedies to push a political agenda, and have been told in no uncertain terms to go to hell.
    I thought I was going to have to end up spending enternity by myself.

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    What?

    Such nasty comments. I will not visit this place for a long time. Shame on you all.

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    Out of interest...

    Regarding the idea of 'using tragedies to push political agendas': I understand that the Republican/Democrat divide can run very deep on this forum. I would hope that those on either side of the political spectrum would not dust off their own stance on gun laws and then apply it to this tragedy, but rather acknowledge the tragedy, and all that it entails, and apply THAT to their stance on gun laws. What's the point of politics if it's unadaptable? What drives politics if not turmoil and outcry?

    If parties and their supporters were to put age-old sentiment above what's happening here-and-now, then there'd be no point to any of them. I'd like to see opposing parties (in the UK too) work together a little more in times like this and set out clear goals for tackling crime, instead of using every tragedy to bicker about everything hypothetical and trivial, and thus achieve nothing.

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    I can only begin to imagine what this father must feel like. But this man is my new hero. A story I am certain will not make the "usual" media outlets. (Nothing editorial here, links to the actual statements.)

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/grie...illers-family/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    I can only begin to imagine what this father must feel like. But this man is my new hero. A story I am certain will not make the "usual" media outlets. (Nothing editorial here, links to the actual statements.)

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/grie...illers-family/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Z View Post
    Regarding the idea of 'using tragedies to push political agendas': I understand that the Republican/Democrat divide can run very deep on this forum. I would hope that those on either side of the political spectrum would not dust off their own stance on gun laws and then apply it to this tragedy, but rather acknowledge the tragedy, and all that it entails, and apply THAT to their stance on gun laws. What's the point of politics if it's unadaptable? What drives politics if not turmoil and outcry?

    If parties and their supporters were to put age-old sentiment above what's happening here-and-now, then there'd be no point to any of them. I'd like to see opposing parties (in the UK too) work together a little more in times like this and set out clear goals for tackling crime, instead of using every tragedy to bicker about everything hypothetical and trivial, and thus achieve nothing.

    The real issue here is that gun laws wouldn't have prevented this, but better mental health care might have. It's almost impossible for a parent to legally commit a child, which is purely wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    The real issue here is that gun laws wouldn't have prevented this, but better mental health care might have. It's almost impossible for a parent to legally commit a child, which is purely wrong.
    Just turned on Katie. Two very loving forgiving parents were just interviewed. The father said the young man who did the shooting had it rougher then him. What a brave father he is & so forgiving. He has made the world a better place already. God Bless Him & All The People Affected By This Tragedy
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    LH - have a look at the "I Am Adam Lanza's Mother" posted in this forum. It addresses the mental health aspect and the Dems are saying they have to look at that in addition to any weapons controls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    Just turned on Katie. Two very loving forgiving parents were just interviewed. The father said the young man who did the shooting had it rougher then him. What a brave father he is & so forgiving. He has made the world a better place already. God Bless Him & All The People Affected By This Tragedy

    I saw the program. I kinda wanted to get away from all the talk about this whole tragedy & there it was again. Katie did a good job
    with the right spirit to have a talk to some ofthe people involved in the shooting. The Father was unbelievably kind & forgiving in his
    talking about the shooter. Did you notice the Mother's reactions. She broke my heart. I wanted to put my arms around her. She is still
    very much in shock & dealing with her loss of her daughter, minute by minute as she said, rather than day by day.
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