I've sometimes joked about the "Red Green Daycare", but I never thought....

[Alysser]

Actually, I've never had much trouble removing duct tape off anything. And as said, the baby doesnt look distressed or harmed in anyway. The parents at least made it just like those pouches. I'm not saying I would do it, heck I would never do it. It's stupid and it can get you into legal trouble if the wrong crowd sees it. It is a little distasteful but it truthfully can't be defined as cruel. I've seen much worse pictures on the Internet.

[pomtzu]

It appears that the point I was trying to make, went over everybody's head, with the exception of happylabs'.

I was only trying to say that this is a wrong message to be sending and posting on the web. And IMO - it does IMPLY cruelty/abuse. I presume that most folks here understand the meaning of IMPLY. No question in my mind that this particular child wasn't harmed, however, being that there are so many copycats out there, it could give them ideas, whether it be done as a "funny", or as punishment (or whatever).

And maybe I missed the concept of "Pet Talk" somewhere in my travels too. Do we really need to be posting things such as this on a pet forum?

[happylabs]

It appears that the point I was trying to make, went over everybody's head, with the exception of happylabs'.

I was only trying to say that this is a wrong message to be sending and posting on the web. And IMO - it does IMPLY cruelty/abuse. I presume that most folks here understand the meaning of IMPLY. No question in my mind that this particular child wasn't harmed, however, being that there are so many copycats out there, it could give them ideas, whether it be done as a "funny", or as punishment (or whatever).

And maybe I missed the concept of "Pet Talk" somewhere in my travels too. Do we really need to be posting things such as this on a pet forum?

Yes, sadly, your point was missed by most.

If you want to see something really scary, google "duct tape baby". There have been other parents who have done this sort of thing and been charged and jailed.

Since this involves duct tape and a baby, it probably belongs in a handyman forum or a parenting one.

[Karen]

I did not miss her point, I simply did not agree with it! As I said, there will always be stupid people out there, and thankfully, those who have used duct tape for actual abuse have been prosecuted, at least the ones that made the news.

And "General" is for non-pet-related stuff, including parenting!

[Sowa]

What your saying sorta makes me think of the same idea of kids watching violence on TV makes them violent. I think those kids would be violent regardless of TV, and same with anyone who sees this image. If they're going to be cruel to their child they'll do it regardless of things they see on the net. If it's not this, it's something else.

[Lady's Human]

If seeing that image posted on the web is going to make you do something, please, just surrender your children to the proper authorities or don't have them to begin with. For that matter, please try not to play with sharp knives, and don't turn your television to anything other than ......well, wait, even PBS shows suggestive content. Nevermind, just don't turn it on.

[pomtzu]

Well shut my mouth! So sorry to live in the land of reality. I'll remember in the future to not make waves here.

As Richard says:

DONE!
(almost)

[Sowa]

Well shut my mouth! So sorry to live in the land of reality. I'll remember in the future to not make waves here.

As Richard says:

DONE!

So we're not allowed our own opinion too? I'm not trying to be mean or rude, but it sorta seems that way.

[Alysser]

I didn't mean to offend anyone, truthfully I didn't. I won't apologize for having a different opinion then anyone. I didn't miss anyone's point, I read all the posts thoroughly. I just didn't agree with it. I agree it is stupid, it's really really stupid, but I don't think it implies cruelty. I don't have anything against anyone else's opinion. There's no reason to get mad, really there isn't. We were simply disagreeing, not bashing.

[pomtzu]

So we're not allowed our own opinion too? I'm not trying to be mean or rude, but it sorta seems that way.

I don't believe I said that, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Everyone has an opinion - just as everyone has an %$##%$&@##. Well - you know the end to that, don't you? And don't you know that things aren't always what they seem??? Please don't twist my words into meanings that were never stated. I stated my views, but NEVER said that other people's were wrong, and I did say IMO/JMHO in more than one post on this subject.

[Lady's Human]

I honestly cannot believe the mentality, or lack thereof, of parents these days.

There's a difference.

Saying I believe this is abuse and shouldn't be posted is opinion.

Saying the above, which is questioning the parenting abilities and aptitude of those who found it amusing is bashing.

[happylabs]

There's a difference.

Saying I believe this is abuse and shouldn't be posted is opinion.

Saying the above, which is questioning the parenting abilities and aptitude of those who found it amusing is bashing.

I believe that statement of mine was directed towards the parents or caretakers of that child in the photo. However, if you want to take it out of context, that is your choice.

I stand by my opinion of the photo.

The end...

[Karen]

Hey, it's okay to disagree. After all, we all agree that our pets are important, and that's the one thing we all have in common. Everything else we can disagree about, as long as we remain civil!

[Sowa]

I don't believe I said that, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Everyone has an opinion - just as everyone has an %$##%$&@##. Well - you know the end to that, don't you? And don't you know that things aren't always what they seem??? Please don't twist my words into meanings that were never stated. I stated my views, but NEVER said that other people's were wrong, and I did say IMO/JMHO in more than one post on this subject.

Ok, I apologize. I wasn't trying to twist your words.

[pomtzu]

Ok, I apologize. I wasn't trying to twist your words.

Thank you, and let me apologize for being so snippy. It was not my intention to argue with anyone, however you just pushed the wrong button. I have very deep-seated reasons why I see red when anyone says I said/did something that I didn't say/do, and it stems back to my childhood. Some things I guess we can never let go of completely, and that's one of them for me.