phoenix's health. help/advice please?

[kittycats_delight]

I have 2 litter mates myself now. They are 7 months old. They are into everything but they are so much fun & so funny. The bigger of the 2 a male is a complete lover. The second you touch him he is purring like a motor. His sister, the smaller one, is a lover when she wants to be but she is wild wild wild. We are forever telling her to get down cause she climbs everything. She is always on top of the cabinets, closets, and even to the top of the curtains. She talks and talks and talks. I had Pirate (the male) neutered about 3 weeks ago and Opera (the female) is going in to be spayed on December 5th (my birthday nonetheless). I had their mum spayed a few months back and she is now living in her new home with her 'boy' (a little boy of 4) & is completely at home, relaxed & happy. I have Bella & Frost who are mother and son. Bella was abandoned in the corn fields near our house and by the time I got her to trust me she was already pregnant. I had both of them altered as well. No issues at all. I have never ever had an issue with spaying or neutering an animal. While, yes, I worry when they go to get altered, I don't ever think twice about getting it done. After going through mammary cancer with a my Mytzi years ago I would never want to chance that again. I was terrible.

I don't know what the vets were referring to with not being able to help kittens. That is utter nonsense. You just need to ask some of the folks here. There are some people here who have nursed kittens are did anything and everything possible for them from the time they were born. (mom rejected them or there just wasn't a mom for some reason or other) I would say if this one vet says they don't do pre surgery tests then call another. Get more than 1 opinion is always best.

We named our kitty Phoenix for somewhat the same reason. We got Phoenix when she was 3. She had been taken from an abusive home. She has scars are her face from getting kicked & she has major trust & abandonment issues too. She can 'snap' pretty quick but she is 150% better than when we brought her home. It took a long time to be able to touch her without gloves and an even longer time to be able to pick her up. She is still spitty & bitey on occasion and you have to really watch her body language or she will tag you if she is in a bad mood but she is another cat than the one we brought home. When we gave her another chance at a home we said she was like the phoenix being reborn from the ashes only in her case it was being reborn into a life without fear & abuse so that's how she got her name.

Time for me to shut up. As you can see I can go on and on. hehehhe

Keep us posted on what happens with the vets & any new developments with your baby.

Michelle

[Phoenix]

For those of you that are interested in what Phoenix looks like I have attached two pictures of her, they both show her life as it is now. Sleeping (always on her side curled up or back if mums there. And mum cleaning her just before feeding (has to be before feeding because after feeding Phoenix goes into a deep sleep).

I will see what Phoenix is like alone before I think of adding another kitten as I know some times they like to be alone.

I thought the vet saying nothing can be done for kittens was strange as I remember the last vet I worked in had a kitten there with neuro problems.

I was once bitten by one of the Feral cats at my previous vet job who had FIV. He was fine one minute, allowed me to pet him then her suddenly turnt and lashed out. I waited for him to calm down before petting him again to say it's okay. I know how temper mental animals can be.

I also have a female Dogue de Bordeaux we had from a puppie, she is 7 now and has had health problems after the other and she is also very temper mental, and can be aggressive around food so I'm somewhat use to temper mental pets.

[kittycats_delight]

She is beautiful!!! She looks quite healthy too. Nice round tummy. Clear, bright eyes. Those photos definitely induced an 'AWWWWWW' moment!!!

One thing to add but I am sure you know this anyway. If your dog can be aggressive around her food make sure you keep the kitty away when it is the dog's feeding time. I would suggest closing Phoenix in another room until your dog is finished or closing your dog in a room with her food until she is done. Best to avoid anything happening if she is food aggressive.

[phesina]

She is beautiful! God bless you both.

[Phoenix]

She is indeed beautiful. She is 11 days old there. She done her first cry for milk then and I was soo happy/excited and over joyed it was unbelievable. Everyone else thinks I'm being silly for 'overreacting' but that's a big thing for me. For me it's another sign she is healthy.

My dog doesn't live with me, she lives with my mum (I moved out over a year ago and I was 17 which is apparently illigal here) when I left I fought to keep my guinea pigs which nearly got me kicked out (no animals allowed) but wasn't going to be able to keep the dog as my mum wanted to keep her (which is fine by me, she is too much).

Phoenix will be my only pet in the house since my guinea pigs died so she will have the whole place to herself and will not be in any danger what so ever.

I'm glad you think she's cute too.

[Catty1]

SQUEE! What cute and beautiful little calico girl! Phoenix looks very healthy; it's great she has two caring moms!

[Medusa]

You've gotten plenty of good advice so that's covered. I just wanted to say that both are beauties. Calicos are my favorite. I just love them. You might try goat's milk as moosmom suggested but always have fresh water out for them. I have two cat fountains for my Fur Posse. Btw, not all cats are lactose intolerant. I drink skim milk and when I'm done w/my cereal, I put the bowl down on the floor and they dive right in. None of them have had any problems ever from drinking milk. However, no sense in tempting fate, right? They don't need the milk; it's just a treat for my cats. Good luck!

[Phoenix]

Okay now I have witnessed the biting my sister was talking about.

Princess holds phoenix in her paws or arms and starts grooming her, then the hold gets tighter and she starts biting her head or neck (that's usually what she is grooming at the time) while her back legs are kicking at Phoenix.

Cats usually do this when you play with them. When they are on their backs and you play with their stomachs they start to attack your hand while kicking. This is what Princess just did but with Phoenix.

I'm not sure if I mentioned before but Princess has been extremely playful since she gave birth. Could it just be her playing?

My sister also said sometimes she will watch the box with her tail swishing then she pounces on Phoenix and Phoenix will usuall meow and climb out from under her. Princess doesn't attempt to attack her along with the pounce, its just a pounce.

[Phoenix]

Phoenix is growing very fast! Mum is indeed playing around! Phoenix is now 19 days and she has been walking for about 1 week now. She also started cleaning herself about a week ago too. I'm aware she is very advanced and I noticed that when I saw her on Monday (15 days old) and she was climbing up the side of her box. Yesterday I was there again and phoenix came out for a little wonder after mum literally dragged her out the box. Mum has been extremely playful and spends less time in the box. In fact if she goes in the box it is to pounce on phoenix or paw her or bite her (oh and she LOVES Phoenix's tail). Princess now hops about, runs up and down or attempts dragging the blanket from the box (with phoenix on it) like that little kitten she once was.

I know phoenix will be following soon as she is already playing. She bit me yesterday when she was playing with me. She now also bites and kicks with her back paws while using her front legs to lock your hand in so she can bite (exactly what I asked about princess doing when she lays on her back biting Phoenix). Phoenix then went on to bite her paw which made her groom her paw then bite her leg which led to her scratching her ear with her leg.