phoenix's health. help/advice please?

[kittycats_delight]

It would be great to get a second kitty for company. Many of us often suggest getting 2 kittens instead of 1. Be warned they will get into more mischief together than alone but they are constantly entertaining and will make you laugh & smile to no end.

7-8 days is early for opening the eyes. Eyes normally open between 10-14 days. Just because she is the only survivor doesn't mean she will be sickly. Usually when there is a litter and only one survives it is because that 1 is a fighter & stronger.

There is always a risk with anesthesia whether it is a cat, dog, other animal or human. It is never 100% risk free. Ask you vet if they do pre-surgery blood work. Most vets do & it lets them know if she will be at a higher risk than others. It is very rare for something to happen under anesthesia. I have known only 1 person that it happened with and it wasn't because something went wrong. It was because they found a large inoperable tumor & the cat was really ill. This was an older cat as well. I have had 2 very skinny feral cats spayed with no issue. Both had given birth 2 weeks before the surgery. They are both happy & healthy & living inside with NO desire to go out at all.

Talk to you vet. Inundate her with questions. They are professionals and are there to help you make an informed decision & to make the best decision regarding your cat. Also, keep asking us questions here. Between the members here, some of which have been rescuing for years and others who have special needs cats, have a font of information to help. They have countless years of experience dealing with things from the simple to the most complex that you can imagine.

We are here to help if we can & do it gladly. Let us know what you vet says ok.

Michelle

BTW...I have a Phoenix too.

[moosmom]

You might want to give her goat's milk! My cats LOVE it and it's totally lactose free. It's good for them, with lots of calories and nutrients.

You can get it powdered at any pet store, or at a farm that has goats.

You got some GREAT advice here. Nothing else I could add. Don't ever apologize for asking questions. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on here. Welcome!!

[Phoenix]

Hiya,

My sister once brought two kittenss that were both female she called shekerah and shekana and my sister said they were really really bad so she gave them away. About a year or two later she got another cat (Phoenix's mum) who's called Princess and her first litter was a litter of 3, one pure black, one ginger and another black and white and my sisters friend took two the kittens together (I sexed them all as boys and am correct). This girl who took two kittens say's they are really really bad together and I was thinking about taking one of them but not too long after princess was pregnant and I decided to wait.

I have the patience for animals were as they both have not.

Yes the vet said she could be very sickly, but then we did go to a pet hospital that relys on donations to keep it running which you don't have to pay for, so they will see your animal and give you medication if needed for free and you can choose to donate or not. So maybe the treatment you get there reflects the payment they get. When I was worrying about Phoenix they said they can't do anything for kittens. If she was going to die then they can't do anything and said 'its just a waiting game with kittens'. Apparently. You cannot do anything for kittens but can for cats. I found that a bit strange. But didn't argue as they are the vets.

I will fire questions at the vet and if I don't like the possible outcome or they can't do a test before I will re-think.

Princess drinks Goat's milk but didn't understand why they can drink that but not cow's milk? Does cows milk contain something Goats doesn't? Or is Goats just more Gentle?

You see I myself don't Drink or eat any dairy so I wouldn't know much about it.

P.S - michelle I remember looking on the past posts before I signed up and your blinking picture come up with Phoenix. I was glad to see someone else with the name as everyone thinks I'm crazy using it. I thought given the circumstances it would be perfect as the vet said she would die the next night as all 3 of her litter mates died and she survived and I believe that because all of us are wishing she survives she is getting the wishes/luck.

It would be great to get a second kitty for company. Many of us often suggest getting 2 kittens instead of 1. Be warned they will get into more mischief together than alone but they are constantly entertaining and will make you laugh & smile to no end.

7-8 days is early for opening the eyes. Eyes normally open between 10-14 days. Just because she is the only survivor doesn't mean she will be sickly. Usually when there is a litter and only one survives it is because that 1 is a fighter & stronger.

There is always a risk with anesthesia whether it is a cat, dog, other animal or human. It is never 100% risk free. Ask you vet if they do pre-surgery blood work. Most vets do & it lets them know if she will be at a higher risk than others. It is very rare for something to happen under anesthesia. I have known only 1 person that it happened with and it wasn't because something went wrong. It was because they found a large inoperable tumor & the cat was really ill. This was an older cat as well. I have had 2 very skinny feral cats spayed with no issue. Both had given birth 2 weeks before the surgery. They are both happy & healthy & living inside with NO desire to go out at all.

Talk to you vet. Inundate her with questions. They are professionals and are there to help you make an informed decision & to make the best decision regarding your cat. Also, keep asking us questions here. Between the members here, some of which have been rescuing for years and others who have special needs cats, have a font of information to help. They have countless years of experience dealing with things from the simple to the most complex that you can imagine.

We are here to help if we can & do it gladly. Let us know what you vet says ok.

Michelle

BTW...I have a Phoenix too.

[kittycats_delight]

I have 2 litter mates myself now. They are 7 months old. They are into everything but they are so much fun & so funny. The bigger of the 2 a male is a complete lover. The second you touch him he is purring like a motor. His sister, the smaller one, is a lover when she wants to be but she is wild wild wild. We are forever telling her to get down cause she climbs everything. She is always on top of the cabinets, closets, and even to the top of the curtains. She talks and talks and talks. I had Pirate (the male) neutered about 3 weeks ago and Opera (the female) is going in to be spayed on December 5th (my birthday nonetheless). I had their mum spayed a few months back and she is now living in her new home with her 'boy' (a little boy of 4) & is completely at home, relaxed & happy. I have Bella & Frost who are mother and son. Bella was abandoned in the corn fields near our house and by the time I got her to trust me she was already pregnant. I had both of them altered as well. No issues at all. I have never ever had an issue with spaying or neutering an animal. While, yes, I worry when they go to get altered, I don't ever think twice about getting it done. After going through mammary cancer with a my Mytzi years ago I would never want to chance that again. I was terrible.

I don't know what the vets were referring to with not being able to help kittens. That is utter nonsense. You just need to ask some of the folks here. There are some people here who have nursed kittens are did anything and everything possible for them from the time they were born. (mom rejected them or there just wasn't a mom for some reason or other) I would say if this one vet says they don't do pre surgery tests then call another. Get more than 1 opinion is always best.

We named our kitty Phoenix for somewhat the same reason. We got Phoenix when she was 3. She had been taken from an abusive home. She has scars are her face from getting kicked & she has major trust & abandonment issues too. She can 'snap' pretty quick but she is 150% better than when we brought her home. It took a long time to be able to touch her without gloves and an even longer time to be able to pick her up. She is still spitty & bitey on occasion and you have to really watch her body language or she will tag you if she is in a bad mood but she is another cat than the one we brought home. When we gave her another chance at a home we said she was like the phoenix being reborn from the ashes only in her case it was being reborn into a life without fear & abuse so that's how she got her name.

Time for me to shut up. As you can see I can go on and on. hehehhe

Keep us posted on what happens with the vets & any new developments with your baby.

Michelle

[Phoenix]

For those of you that are interested in what Phoenix looks like I have attached two pictures of her, they both show her life as it is now. Sleeping (always on her side curled up or back if mums there. And mum cleaning her just before feeding (has to be before feeding because after feeding Phoenix goes into a deep sleep).

I will see what Phoenix is like alone before I think of adding another kitten as I know some times they like to be alone.

I thought the vet saying nothing can be done for kittens was strange as I remember the last vet I worked in had a kitten there with neuro problems.

I was once bitten by one of the Feral cats at my previous vet job who had FIV. He was fine one minute, allowed me to pet him then her suddenly turnt and lashed out. I waited for him to calm down before petting him again to say it's okay. I know how temper mental animals can be.

I also have a female Dogue de Bordeaux we had from a puppie, she is 7 now and has had health problems after the other and she is also very temper mental, and can be aggressive around food so I'm somewhat use to temper mental pets.

[kittycats_delight]

She is beautiful!!! She looks quite healthy too. Nice round tummy. Clear, bright eyes. Those photos definitely induced an 'AWWWWWW' moment!!!

One thing to add but I am sure you know this anyway. If your dog can be aggressive around her food make sure you keep the kitty away when it is the dog's feeding time. I would suggest closing Phoenix in another room until your dog is finished or closing your dog in a room with her food until she is done. Best to avoid anything happening if she is food aggressive.

[phesina]

She is beautiful! God bless you both.

[Phoenix]

She is indeed beautiful. She is 11 days old there. She done her first cry for milk then and I was soo happy/excited and over joyed it was unbelievable. Everyone else thinks I'm being silly for 'overreacting' but that's a big thing for me. For me it's another sign she is healthy.

My dog doesn't live with me, she lives with my mum (I moved out over a year ago and I was 17 which is apparently illigal here) when I left I fought to keep my guinea pigs which nearly got me kicked out (no animals allowed) but wasn't going to be able to keep the dog as my mum wanted to keep her (which is fine by me, she is too much).

Phoenix will be my only pet in the house since my guinea pigs died so she will have the whole place to herself and will not be in any danger what so ever.

I'm glad you think she's cute too.