Deer season - aarrgghhhhh

[sasvermont]

I saw a truck with a buck in the back, just today. I am not a hunter but do believe herds need to be controlled by thinning them each year. I could never do the deed. I hope everyone uses the meat for food and takes care to kill them quickly and not just wound them.

Pennsylvania really does have a deer problem, as do many states. Whenever I drive to PA, I try to avoid the back roads because the deer are grazing in the middle of roads etc. etc. There are deer everywhere. And of course, more and more houses are being built in areas that deer had as their habitat.

I live in a rural area, with lots of places for deer to hide and live. They do wander into my yard and field quite often. I love seeing them in the field. Many of the fields are "posted" so no one shots them in my part of town. I still worry when I am walking my dog. I usually wear a bright colored coat and stick to the edge of the woods.

[dab_20]

I saw on TV once that a town was using fake wolves to keep the deer off the road. They had glowing eyes and the deer actually stayed away! I don't know why more places don't do that.

[Bonny]

There are deer whistles you can have put on your vehicle but I don't know how well they work?

[smokey the elder]

They don't, really; and they fall off pretty easily.

I used to work with a friend who asked me to let him know if I ever killed a deer with my vehicle. The only time I ever hit one, I wounded it and it probably died someplace, poor thing. It smashed my passenger side in front of the front wheel and did a job on the frame.

Hitting a deer is bad enough; imagine hitting an elk, or worse, a moose!!

[Bonny]

Around here they have special grills made to protect their pick ups from deer collisions. Our state is 2nd in deer accidents.

I had a doe run off an embankment along side of my car. When she came off the embankment she took out my side mirror, dented the drivers door, & pulled off a bunch of trim. Her & I were looking at each other as she ran alongside the car. She had big brown doe eyes. I slowed way down & she then got across the road.

[IRescue452]

Lol, have to add this just for kicks. I stopped for a shrew the other day. Seriously tiny creature. I thought it was a leaf blowing across the road until I got close enough to see that it had feet and was making purposeful movement. I hope it made it across the 3 other lanes.

[Karen]

Oh, goodness, shrew are usually stealthier than that! Thanks for stopping for it!

[Puckstop31]

I saw a truck with a buck in the back, just today. I am not a hunter but do believe herds need to be controlled by thinning them each year. I could never do the deed. I hope everyone uses the meat for food and takes care to kill them quickly and not just wound them.

Absolutley. I use every single bit of the deer I kill. Also, I hunt for many reasons but NEVER just to put antlers on the wall. I take the concept of the ethical kill to the extreme. If I am not 99% (you can never be 100% sure) sure of a clean, ethical shot I simply will not take it, period. I respect the wild and the hunters role in it.

Pennsylvania really does have a deer problem, as do many states. Whenever I drive to PA, I try to avoid the back roads because the deer are grazing in the middle of roads etc. etc. There are deer everywhere. And of course, more and more houses are being built in areas that deer had as their habitat.

From what I see, the largest issue in PA is access to the deer, especially near Philly and Pittsburgh. The PA Game Commission issues a HUGE number of antlerless tags for those areas, but a large majority of them do not get filled. Well meaning but misinformed people own a lot of the land they live on near the cities. They feed them and do not let people hunt them on their land. One way or the other, the population has to be controlled. Hunting is the best and least expensive say to do that. If they dont get hunted, they overpopulate and then Cronic Wasting Disease takes over. Or they just starve to death in winter. OR they end up as road kills.

Another issue is the hunting seasons. Archery season needs to be longer. PA cuts it off right at the high part of the rut. Rut is when you get the most daytime movement and its when they are easier to hunt. Hopefully the commission does something about it, or its only going to get worse.

I still worry when I am walking my dog. I usually wear a bright colored coat and stick to the edge of the woods.

I recommend that you and your dogs wear blaze orange when walking trails during the firearms hunting seasons. Other colors are less recognizable. All gun hunters know what blaze orange is.

[cassiesmom]

I was coming home from church choir last night and saw a doe on the side of the road. I learned from this thread to pay attention, because where there is one deer, there might be more. I was able to slow down (I wasn't going the speed limit anyway because the road was wet from rain) and don't you know, behind the first one there was another. So I slowed down even more and they turned and went back the way they came. I was afraid they were going to walk out onto the pavement. It seems like drivers around here don't pay attention to the deer crossing signs. Aargh, I don't like deer season.

[pomtzu]

My DIL took her SUV for the estimate yesterday, and that minimal damage will be over $3000 to repair. YIKES! Thank goodness for good insurance. I don't know how some people drive without any or adequate coverage.

I'm going to convince my grandson to go into auto body repair after school. There's never a lack of business or a good paycheck there.

[wombat2u2004]

There's never a lack of business or a good paycheck there.

Because it's mostly insurance money.
I did heaps of insurance work for people as a builder....my bills to them were double, sometimes triple the cost of what I would charge for non insurance work.

[pomtzu]

Because it's mostly insurance money.
I did heaps of insurance work for people as a builder....my bills to them were double, sometimes triple the cost of what I would charge for non insurance work.

Hmmmmm------are you telling us you were a crook and took advantage of a bad situation???

Shame on you, Womballina!

[wombat2u2004]

Hmmmmm------are you telling us you were a crook and took advantage of a bad situation???

Shame on you, Womballina!

Hee hee. Well you know, Insurance companies have been ripping us all off for years and years.....so simply put....when it's their time to be ripped off, then we simply just go for it.
I don't know what it's like in the USA, but here, all builders do it, and car repair companies do it to.....it's the done thing.

[Puckstop31]

Well you know, Insurance companies have been ripping us all off for years and years.....so simply put....when it's their time to be ripped off, then we simply just go for it.

Wom, if you don't see the problem with this statement.... There is not much else to discuss.

Its this kind of behavior that makes the insurance companies charge what they do. You run a business I guess... Do you just eat extra costs your vendors pass on to you? Of course you don't.

So you go 'screw' the big bad insurance companies. Its the insurance consumer who gets screwed in the end.

Freedom one hand and your love of big government 'safety net' on the other. You are a weird fish dude. LOL But we knew that already.

[wombat2u2004]

Wom, if you don't see the problem with this statement.... There is not much else to discuss.

Its this kind of behavior that makes the insurance companies charge what they do. You run a business I guess... Do you just eat extra costs your vendors pass on to you? Of course you don't.

So you go 'screw' the big bad insurance companies. Its the insurance consumer who gets screwed in the end.

Freedom one hand and your love of big government 'safety net' on the other. You are a weird fish dude. LOL But we knew that already.

There is no problem. I've done nothing illegal, so how can you assume that I have commited fraud ?? Fraud is an illegal act...it's a crime....period.
I have done nothing more than anyone else in business, and that is to maximise my profits.
If you need clarification of that, then I suggest you consult a lawyer. I'm sure he or she will convince you that no crime has been commited. And while you are at it, check out the profit margin of insurance companies, the exorbitant wages and perks given to senior management, the company vehicles, the holiday packages, the big fat superannuation funds, the free health plans, I could go on and on....couldn't I ???
No Pucky....yer climbing up the wrong tree with this one. There is no way that insurance corporations would ever drop their premiums if everyone was honest, they just go for the buck like the rest of us.
You are in business....you should know that.
How long have you been in business for ????
I have been in business for 35 years old mate.....I bet I could enlighten you a little about what goes on in the world.
But I must admit that I do respect your opinions, you seem to me to be a reasonably intelligent fellow, not at all like the bimbo who only posts occasionally and contradicts herself every second or third post.

"Freedom one hand and your love of big government 'safety net' on the other."
Allow me to put you at ease with this statement....k ???
Plain and simple....we've earned our freedom, the hard way. We look out for the little man, and make sure he doesn't fall too far.
That is the way us Australians do things. We have no love of big corporations, or unions, or anyone else who tries to run our lives. We simply look out for each other.