London Riots (ETA post #23: Brits, please sign the petition to axe rioters' benefits)

[Miss Z]

Again, yes, eviction can take place for anti-social behaviour. This link contains the information. Tenancy Enforcement You will need to scroll down to the bottom to open in a pdf or other document reader to access it in its entirety.

Thanks for the link - I see it does indeed state that severe cases of ASB result in eviction. Looks like we both would consider rioting to fall under that category. I suppose that, as it stands, the rule applies only when such persons commit ABH in their neighbourhood, rather than the larger community? Because in which case I can see how people would have an escape clause should they be threatened with losing their house... and all the more reason for something like the e-petition to force the government to be decisive about how convicted rioters should be punished.

Sorry I got a little pissy. Benefits, and by whom they are received, has always been a raw topic for me. My explanation of council housing was rushed, and I apologise if it caused any offence.

[wombat2u2004]

This guy has something interesting to say...hee hee

http://www.youtube.com/v/9pAC0YSmK0g?hd=1

[ChrisH]

Wom, I have to say I agree with most if not all of his rant.

Zara, something to inflame the rawness.

Give me charity money pleads mother-of-TEN who insists her £30,000-a-year benefits are 'not enough

She was also on 'This Morning'.
http://www.itv.com/this-morning/life...-ten-children/

In my opinion the benefit system needs a complete overhaul so that she and her ilk, both now and in the future, are not able to milk it the way they do.

There are many, many, deserving benefit recipients, the majority of whom are those who have fallen on hard times by no fault of their own, perhaps because of unemployment or bad health. In the case of the former, people who are trying their level best to be employed again and in the latter, those who would like nothing better than to earn their own living once again. These are who the system is meant for, not parasites such as the woman featured in the links above.

[lizbud]

Chris,

I read the article but the video can't be viewed by anyone outside the UK.

There are people just like the "mom of 10" in the US also. People who seem
to think the world owes them a living. It's unfortunate but true. I wonder if
that women grew up in a "charity kept" home? She looks healthy enough, she
should get a job & see how normal people EARN their money.

[phesina]

What I don't get is... 10 kids???!!!!!

Okay, so perhaps one was unexpected... but by the time #2 showed up, she should have figured out what was causing them to come along. Why the hell didn't she get sterilized then.. or at least gotten some decent birth control plan going?

I'm pretty much a "liberal" (dirty word these days).. but I think there is a lot to be said for having people on public assistance rendered incapable of reproducing, at least for that period of time. Okay, so we'll support you and your two kids while you (hopefully) start getting your life together.. but more kids?

Of course, the question then is, what happens to the additional kids?

[wombat2u2004]

What I don't get is... 10 kids???!!!!!

Okay, so perhaps one was unexpected... but by the time #2 showed up, she should have figured out what was causing them to come along. Why the hell didn't she get sterilized then.. or at least gotten some decent birth control plan going?

I'm pretty much a "liberal" (dirty word these days).. but I think there is a lot to be said for having people on public assistance rendered incapable of reproducing, at least for that period of time. Okay, so we'll support you and your two kids while you (hopefully) start getting your life together.. but more kids?

Of course, the question then is, what happens to the additional kids?

I don't know what the situation is like in the USA, but here in Australia, the more kids you have, the more public assistance ya get....so they just keep having more and more kids. Why work ??? That's the way they look at it.
And it isn't just the poorer classes who live this way, my daughter had a friend in Ladies College who now has two kids, lives with some bloody hobo, and they both receive welfare. I just can't understand how a girl as intelligent as she is, after being put through a school that cost her parents a fortune, can just throw it all away and live the life she is living. It is just so beyond me, I just can't figure out why they do this.

[wombat2u2004]

What I don't get is... 10 kids???!!!!!

Maybe she was bored and didn't have anything else to do.

[phesina]

In the U.S. (the woman in ChrisH's link is British) you get more welfare money if you have more kids too, though I've heard that the increase is nowhere near the costs of raising an additional child. Still, I guess there are people here cranking them out like clockwork, too.

[wombat2u2004]

Wom, I have to say I agree with most if not all of his rant.

He kind of gets to the basics of it, hey ???
But he's right in saying that their parents are partly responsible for their behaviour, and if the govt keeps throwing money at people like that, then why work ????