Obama Ends The Ban On Gays In The Military

[pomtzu]

And just how do Canadians handle situations such as this???????

[NicoleLJ]

Canada full accepts gays serving in the military

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_...litary_service

Nations that permit gay people to serve openly in the military include the Republic of China (Taiwan), Australia, Israel, Argentina, Canada, all member states of the European Union and every original NATO signatory except Turkey.

Here is Canada's histroy on this subject.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_...adian_military



In May 1967, due to the passing of the CF Reorganization Act (C-90) the Canadian Forces issued Canadian Forces Administrative Order (CFAO) 19-20, Sexual Deviation - Investigation, Medical Investigation and Disposal, which required members of the military suspected of being homosexual to be investigated and then subsequently released.

This order was repealed in 1992, after a challenge by then CF Member Michelle Douglas, thereby allowing gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people to serve in the Canadian Forces free from harassment and discrimination.[2][3]

A series of provincial and territorial court decisions beginning in 2003 ruled in favour of the legality of gay marriage, and a national law to that effect was passed by Canada's parliament in 2005 by the Paul Martin Liberal government.

In 2004, Jason Stewart was the first member of Canada's military to marry a same-sex partner.[4]In May 2005, Canada's first military gay wedding took place at Nova Scotia's Canadian Forces Base Greenwood. Officials described the ceremony as low-key but touching. A similar wedding has since taken place between two male Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers. Today, the Canadian Forces recognizes same-sex marital and common-law unions, and affords them the same benefits offered to all married or common-law serving members

[Asiel]

And just how do Canadians handle situations such as this???????

Don't kid yourself Pomtzu. I personally know 7 gays/lesbians that joined the forces and I woudn't want to describe the horrors that they confided in me that they were put through while in the service. Straight from the horse's mouth so I do believe them as 4 of them quit . Canada might have made it a non issue but the ordinary citizen isn't always as tolerant.

[Lady's Human]

Asiel, as I was saying, it's a technical non-issue, but what happens within the military in reality is a very different situation.

[Catty1]

It may be legal and look good on paper...but many people will get beaten and worse.

Homophobia exists in the civilian world too...and every so often there is a news report of a horrid assault (putting it mildly).

Yes, it's a progressive and good idea. I bet many gay and lesbian people will still stay in the closet while serving in the military. Best to focus on one enemy.

[Asiel]

it may be legal and look good on paper...but many people will get beaten and worse.

Homophobia exists in the civilian world too...and every so often there is a news report of a horrid assault (putting it mildly).

Yes, it's a progressive and good idea. I bet many gay and lesbian people will still stay in the closet while serving in the military. Best to focus on one enemy.

bingo !!!!!!!!

[Asiel]

I do know that . But Canadians in general are not as tolerant as the painted picture shown here. Can't say someone didn't try to avert this, too bad it fell through. To each his own, just a lot of crap to me, not worth the discussion.
Especially when it's all been copied and pasted from other sources.

[NicoleLJ]

Especially when it's all been copied and pasted from other sources.

There is nothing wrong with copying and pasting from other sources when you are providing info for questions asked. Example: When I was asked Canada's view on Gays in the military. I knew some would not take my word for it. So I provided a link to the history along with the information. That way they could read it for themselves with no need of a he said she said.

[wombat2u2004]

Nicole, why do you support gays in the military ????

[NicoleLJ]

Because I believe in equality. I can admit that if you had asked me if I supported Gays and equality 2 yrs ago that I would have said no. If asked why my only arguement was that it was agianst my religion. Even saying it left a bad taste in my mouth. Doug and many other helped me to see how prejudice my views were. I fought it because I didn't want to think that the church I was raised to believe was the one true church could be wrong. But they are and were.

Prejudism does not just affect people of color, religion, race and such. It can affect everyone. Even disable people have to deal with it too. Doug asked me yesterday when I was discussing this issue with him, what the difference is if a gay man, a woman, colored person, straight man or so on were to rescue another soldier on a field of battle. The answer is there is no difference. Would a wounded soldier refuse their aid because of the person religion? Color? Sex? Sexual orientation? No. They can still do all the same things required. They just are different in some way or another and there is nothing wrong with that. So if there is nothing wrong with them being different then they should all be treated equally. They should have the same rights and freedoms as everyone else esspecailly since they are putting their life on the line to defend their country.

[Marigold2]

I am so proud of our President. Like Lincoln he feels alll men should be treated equally. Black, white, gay or straight.

These precious young children, men and women are risking their lives to keep us and the world safe.
They are our sons and daughters, our brothers and nieces.

Each one is a hero, each one an American.