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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    I don't struggle with another adult butting into parenting. It's very simple, I won't allow it. Someone attempts to correct or advise me on parenting in the manner done by the OP better call the police prior to acting, they're going to need them.

    It amazes me that the perfect people on this board still feel fit to judge someone's actions and life from a 10 second snapshot which may or may not have been accurately posted online.
    If you saw a man beating a child (not saying that is totally representative of what the OP saw), you wouldn't step in? Really? I don't believe that. Take it outside the context of a child. If you saw a man beating his dog, you wouldn't do anything?

    I don't see anyone claiming to be perfect people or parents. I do see someone that reacted to what seemed to be a disastrous situation. Sometimes, people do simply react, and think later.

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    Nowhere is beating mentioned in here.

    I defy someone to drag a completely unwilling person ANYWHERE by their face, you'd lose your grip.

    Given the OP's penchant for needless drama, (veggie salad, anyone) I also have damned good reason to question whether the scene unfolded as portrayed. Somehow I doubt it.

    The comment which truly irritate me are the subsequent comment questioning the parenting skills of the person in question (judging someone's life on a 10 second snapshot) and the whole idea that it's completely fine to interfere with someone's actions as a parent in a public place.

    Again, want a confrontation? If the OP had taken those actions with me, the police would have been needed.

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    Well Mr. Tough Guy bring it on.

    What would you have done, hit me? Pushed me or dragged me by the face and hair as this demented dad did? Got in my face and screamed?

    If you think I will just watch a child be mistreated and do nothing you don't understand me or many moms. And 10 seconds.? I only needed two. The kid was screaming bloody hell in pain.

    What if you see someone beating a child with a stick or kicking them in say 5 seconds. What would you do? Would you stand by and let some man kick or beat his child? Or would you be decent enough and brave enough to step up and help the child?
    Course this is America lets not forget that shall we?

    What if it was a dog being kicked? Would you risk you safety to help said dog or just say the hell with it he probably peed on the rug and deserves it?

    What about a women? Hell maybe the Bi%%h deserved it. Would you get involved and protect her if she was being dragged by the hair and face or figure it is between the two of them. Yes he is about 100 pounds more but so what, you are late for work and you don't have time to get involved in their BS?

    This is how I feel. I step up. I hope that if I ever need help someone will step up for me or my kids or grandkids. We should all be kind and caring to each other and if we see another soul in pain or danger we should step out of our comfort zone and press our fear down and do what needs to be done to keep that soul safe.
    Privacy and liberty in the US does NOT give one a right to beat mentally or physically an animal or human.

    So if by chance I see you in trouble I will step up to help you and if I see you beating someone such as a child or animal I will stop you. Go ahead and call the police if you can, you might just find yourself having a lot of explaining to do.




    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Nowhere is beating mentioned in here.

    I defy someone to drag a completely unwilling person ANYWHERE by their face, you'd lose your grip.

    Given the OP's penchant for needless drama, (veggie salad, anyone) I also have damned good reason to question whether the scene unfolded as portrayed. Somehow I doubt it.

    The comment which truly irritate me are the subsequent comment questioning the parenting skills of the person in question (judging someone's life on a 10 second snapshot) and the whole idea that it's completely fine to interfere with someone's actions as a parent in a public place.

    Again, want a confrontation? If the OP had taken those actions with me, the police would have been needed.

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    LH would never beat a child or an animal. Scold a child? Yes, if necessary. Grasp a child by the shoulder and move him or her somewhere away from whatever he was doing wrong? Yes, if needed. But I have never seen him drag anyone or anything by the face, and remember, I have been his older sister his whole life. Just don't make assumptions, okay?
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    Perhaps he will explain his words to me then about needing the police if I ever stepped it with his life. Some saw it as a threat I didn't. I think the police would be arresting him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    LH would never beat a child or an animal. Scold a child? Yes, if necessary. Grasp a child by the shoulder and move him or her somewhere away from whatever he was doing wrong? Yes, if needed. But I have never seen him drag anyone or anything by the face, and remember, I have been his older sister his whole life. Just don't make assumptions, okay?

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    He meant if you, or anyone else, tried to interfere with his parenting. If he is grasping his son (more likely to misbehave at the moment than his daughter) by the shoulder and scolding him loudly, you should not assume the kids is beaten when no one is looking. You may assume that said child has been misbehaving repeatedly and after several warnings, as young children sometimes do, and has worn away every bit of patience LH had, and frankly, said child needs to recognize the consequences of his own misbehavior.

    You, or anyone else, assuming abuse and stepping in at that point will not make anything better, and likely make an angry person angrier. Not the effect you would hope to have, I am sure.
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    Fair enough. And most of us have been there or seen a child in the store yell till our ears are almost bleeding and the parent turns a deaf ear because that is what is best.
    But this was different. This was abuse. The chid was screaming in pain.
    It was a judgement call. I think most caring parents would have stepped in and said something.
    What I did find sad is that many people here remember very abusive childhoods and are still sufffering.
    I like to say that I would be sane if it wasn't for my parents and kids. LOL
    My dad beat me too. I made sure I DID NOT do that to my kids. They spent a lot of time in the corner thinking about what they did. Probably plotting revenage. LOL
    I don't see or speak to my dad. But I am ok with that.
    I hope all of you who had a less then a happy childhood peace and happiness. Today is for living. Tomorrow is full of promise.

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