Michael Vick scores again....

[phesina]

It seems to me that big-time sports superstars (and probably superstars in other big-time public worlds) get a free and easy pass on things like this. Just look at convicted-rapist-who-served-his-time Kobe Bryant. Even if they did these nasty things, they still can bring in huge amounts of money for themselves and those who give them the "second chance."

What this does is give a loud statement to the whole world that what that person did is really not that bad after all, since he is so talented (even if it is that bad if some non-super-talent did it). In other words, the evil of the deed itself is relative depending on who is doing it.

How many other publicly-known convicted rapists, animal killers, and others guilty of similarly heinous offenses would be rehired in their pre-conviction professions? There are many other people out there who did their crimes, served their time, and have no one giving them that "second chance."

I have to say I am EXTREMELY disappointed in President Obama because of this.

[RICHARD]

It seems to me that big-time sports superstars (and probably superstars in other big-time public worlds) get a free and easy pass on things like this. Just look at convicted-rapist-who-served-his-time Kobe Bryant. Even if they did these nasty things, they still can bring in so much money for themselves and those who give them that "second chance."

What this does is give a loud statement to the whole world that what that person did is really not that bad after all, when he is so talented (even if it is that bad if some non-super-talent did it).

KB was never convicted, he settled out of court and the charges were dropped when the woman refused to testify in the case.

It does suck when people get to walk on any kind of criminal case.

He also signed a huge contract -about 130 million - to endorse a product. He also got back some of his endorsement contracts after he was 'cleared', I don't like KB either but it can't denied that both of the idiots are talented beyond their 'smartness'

I am not making a case for them, nor am I praising them-it's just a fact that they are good at what they do. They do not deserve any special treatment in the real world, but I do find the people that wear the jerseys and make it an extra effort to hold them in the same esteem they had before they screwed up, to be just as stupid as their 'heroes' are.

[lizbud]

I don't care whether he plays ball or collects garbage, but he should
never ever own another dog, or any other animal for the rest of his life.

After reading about his recorded interview where he expressed a desire
to have another dog, I just about got sick to my stomach. He said
his kids were asking why they couldn't get a dog and he felt bad for them.

Maybe he should tell his children the real reason why they can't have a dog.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-a-dog-again/

[phesina]

KB was never convicted, he settled out of court and the charges were dropped when the woman refused to testify in the case.

It does suck when people get to walk on any kind of criminal case.

He also signed a huge contract -about 130 million - to endorse a product. He also got back some of his endorsement contracts after he was 'cleared', I don't like KB either but it can't denied that both of the idiots are talented beyond their 'smartness'

I am not making a case for them, nor am I praising them-it's just a fact that they are good at what they do. They do not deserve any special treatment in the real world, but I do find the people that wear the jerseys and make it an extra effort to hold them in the same esteem they had before they screwed up, to be just as stupid as their 'heroes' are.

Sorry, I thought Kobe was convicted and served time. (Now I suppose he'll sue me for libel, and win.) Shows you how closely I follow professional sports!

Still, if either of these guys, talented as they are, had ever been convicted of child abuse, they'd be history. That is the one crime that is unforgivable. But rape and animal torture/murder get a pass depending on who's done it. Such a world!

[blue]

I think Es's argument that MV should be forgiven is just plain wrong. The guy deserves every bit of punishment on and off the field he gets, regardless of how ES and President Obama feel about second chances.

And Liz, we all know MV wont tell his kids why he cant own a dog, you should call them and tell them why they cant have a puppy.

[shais_mom]

I think Es's argument that MV should be forgiven is just plain wrong. The guy deserves every bit of punishment on and off the field he gets, regardless of how ES and President Obama feel about second chances.

And Liz, we all know MV wont tell his kids why he cant own a dog, you should call them and tell them why they cant have a puppy.

I say give them a copy of the book I mentioned and tell them that if the puppy potty's on the floor - it might get drowned in its own water bowl or beaten until it is dead b/c in his knuckleheaded pea brain that's proper punishment. Wonder what he does to those girls when they do wrong?

[Karen]

Hey, we can agree to disagree about whether MV deserve a second chance or not, but really, his kids could just be told "No, you cannot have a dog. When you are a grown-up, and have your own place to live, then you can get whatever dog you want. You just cannot have one now."

I don't know how old his children are, but I am sure they will, sooner or later, learn of what he did. Better they hear it from him, now, and know that his former behavior is the reason they cannot have a dog now, than they find out from some schoolmate in a hateful way. It could be a lesson in actions having consequences, if handled correctly. But he should never, ever be allowed the privilege of owning a dog again.

[Alysser]

Isn't that sometimes incorporated with animal abuse cases, where the abuser can NEVER own another animal again? For some reason I feel like that has been posted here before.