Michael Vick scores again....

[katladyd]

What is making me sick to my stomach is that MV is talking about owning dogs again. Scary. I don't care if he plays football again, the man has to make a living even if I detest him. The NFL SHOULD make him pay a large percentage of his salary to the ASPCA for the rest of his career. That way, some good could come from his reinstatement and high salary.

[RICHARD]

Again, not to start a fight?


Look if your loved one or SO was caught molesting kids/killing dogs/pedaling kiddie porn, it would be a different story.

Some of you would pledge solidarity to the death or run for hills.

Either way?

I hope none of you ever have to go thru that, but in reality?

Any scorn, hate or malice we hold toward MV doesn't really mean shiat.

And altho we watch from the periphery? It really doesn't matter.

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THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING ABOUT THE STORY that Staci posted was the fact that MV 'didn't know what he was doing was wrong".

That is a major flaw in the way he was raised and to me, a far more sinister problem-Vick is the one exposed to the public, how many other knuckleheads are there that roam the country unimpeded?

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There are people who have given people who have been in jail a chance.
The only one who gets thanked by the prez is the moron who gave MV the job.

With so many people out of work that DESERVE A JOB?

Barack Obama thanks the guy that hired the most obviously stupid offender.


Vick probably won BO the fantasy league championship with his play over the year.

I would not put it above the POTUS to start MV on his team..What a guy.

[phesina]

It seems to me that big-time sports superstars (and probably superstars in other big-time public worlds) get a free and easy pass on things like this. Just look at convicted-rapist-who-served-his-time Kobe Bryant. Even if they did these nasty things, they still can bring in huge amounts of money for themselves and those who give them the "second chance."

What this does is give a loud statement to the whole world that what that person did is really not that bad after all, since he is so talented (even if it is that bad if some non-super-talent did it). In other words, the evil of the deed itself is relative depending on who is doing it.

How many other publicly-known convicted rapists, animal killers, and others guilty of similarly heinous offenses would be rehired in their pre-conviction professions? There are many other people out there who did their crimes, served their time, and have no one giving them that "second chance."

I have to say I am EXTREMELY disappointed in President Obama because of this.

[RICHARD]

It seems to me that big-time sports superstars (and probably superstars in other big-time public worlds) get a free and easy pass on things like this. Just look at convicted-rapist-who-served-his-time Kobe Bryant. Even if they did these nasty things, they still can bring in so much money for themselves and those who give them that "second chance."

What this does is give a loud statement to the whole world that what that person did is really not that bad after all, when he is so talented (even if it is that bad if some non-super-talent did it).

KB was never convicted, he settled out of court and the charges were dropped when the woman refused to testify in the case.

It does suck when people get to walk on any kind of criminal case.

He also signed a huge contract -about 130 million - to endorse a product. He also got back some of his endorsement contracts after he was 'cleared', I don't like KB either but it can't denied that both of the idiots are talented beyond their 'smartness'

I am not making a case for them, nor am I praising them-it's just a fact that they are good at what they do. They do not deserve any special treatment in the real world, but I do find the people that wear the jerseys and make it an extra effort to hold them in the same esteem they had before they screwed up, to be just as stupid as their 'heroes' are.

[lizbud]

I don't care whether he plays ball or collects garbage, but he should
never ever own another dog, or any other animal for the rest of his life.

After reading about his recorded interview where he expressed a desire
to have another dog, I just about got sick to my stomach. He said
his kids were asking why they couldn't get a dog and he felt bad for them.

Maybe he should tell his children the real reason why they can't have a dog.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-a-dog-again/

[phesina]

KB was never convicted, he settled out of court and the charges were dropped when the woman refused to testify in the case.

It does suck when people get to walk on any kind of criminal case.

He also signed a huge contract -about 130 million - to endorse a product. He also got back some of his endorsement contracts after he was 'cleared', I don't like KB either but it can't denied that both of the idiots are talented beyond their 'smartness'

I am not making a case for them, nor am I praising them-it's just a fact that they are good at what they do. They do not deserve any special treatment in the real world, but I do find the people that wear the jerseys and make it an extra effort to hold them in the same esteem they had before they screwed up, to be just as stupid as their 'heroes' are.

Sorry, I thought Kobe was convicted and served time. (Now I suppose he'll sue me for libel, and win.) Shows you how closely I follow professional sports!

Still, if either of these guys, talented as they are, had ever been convicted of child abuse, they'd be history. That is the one crime that is unforgivable. But rape and animal torture/murder get a pass depending on who's done it. Such a world!

[blue]

I think Es's argument that MV should be forgiven is just plain wrong. The guy deserves every bit of punishment on and off the field he gets, regardless of how ES and President Obama feel about second chances.

And Liz, we all know MV wont tell his kids why he cant own a dog, you should call them and tell them why they cant have a puppy.

[shais_mom]

I think Es's argument that MV should be forgiven is just plain wrong. The guy deserves every bit of punishment on and off the field he gets, regardless of how ES and President Obama feel about second chances.

And Liz, we all know MV wont tell his kids why he cant own a dog, you should call them and tell them why they cant have a puppy.

I say give them a copy of the book I mentioned and tell them that if the puppy potty's on the floor - it might get drowned in its own water bowl or beaten until it is dead b/c in his knuckleheaded pea brain that's proper punishment. Wonder what he does to those girls when they do wrong?

[Edwina's Secretary]

There are people who have given people who have been in jail a chance.
The only one who gets thanked by the prez is the moron who gave MV the job.

Just curious...how do you know that? How do you know the president didn't thank other people who gave ex-convicts a job? How do you know this is the only one who gets thanked?

What if he HAD been a garbage man? Should he be barred from ever being a garbage man again?

If you accept the sentiment - of the president thanking someone who gave an ex-con a second chance - would it be different if the ex-con was a pedophile? Rapist? Murderer? Drug dealer?

[RICHARD]

Just curious...how do you know that? How do you know the president didn't thank other people who gave ex-convicts a job? How do you know this is the only one who gets thanked?

What if he HAD been a garbage man? Should he be barred from ever being a garbage man again?

If you accept the sentiment - of the president thanking someone who gave an ex-con a second chance - would it be different if the ex-con was a pedophile? Rapist? Murderer? Drug dealer?

I don't pretend to play politics like you do.

And I really don't give a shiat about the garbage man, I paid property taxes and expect my trash to get hauled. As I said before and your eyes may have glazed over when you got to the part where I said that MV has a union and all the money to hire lawyers to get his job back. What garbage man has that luxury?


BTW?

Bill Richardson couldn't give Billy the Kid a pardon, so why should MV get one?

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I haven't played 'what if' with you in a while, let's make it a while more?