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    Quote Originally Posted by mrspunkysmom View Post
    I think the founding fathers created a system of laws that would serve the country in their time but that could be amended by future generations to meet their needs. They, too, had to compromise to get the document written.
    They created a system of government that ensures the highest possible level of INDIVIDUAL Liberty. Individual is important and much different than the 'liberty' of the collective masses. It was also intended that the Federal Government remain as small as possible. The Constitution grants the Federal Government a limited scope of powers and with the 10th Amendment, ensures that everything else is up to the States or the People.

    As time progresses there are certainly needs for the Federal Government to need more ability to do certain things. I believe that it has grown WAY too big. So big that it starts to inhibit a persons Liberty, rather than enhance it.

    Counter to that are the words "or to the people" in the 10th Amendment. The People elect our representatives and thus the arguement can be made that as long as the elected do what the electorate wants, its OK. Does that look like what has happened in the past couple of decades?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    The People elect our representatives and thus the arguement can be made that as long as the elected do what the electorate wants, its OK. Does that look like what has happened in the past couple of decades?
    No. But it's the same all over the world. I think Pollies have become distant from the people.....and I think it will get worse in the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    No. But it's the same all over the world. I think Pollies have become distant from the people.....and I think it will get worse in the future.
    Actually, I have more and more faith in my countrymen every day. The key is to actually talk to people rather than listen to the news media.

    AND, we just learned that people CAN change. So, everything is coming up "Milhouse". LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Actually, I have more and more faith in my countrymen every day. The key is to actually talk to people rather than listen to the news media.

    AND, we just learned that people CAN change. So, everything is coming up "Milhouse". LOL

    Merry New Year!
    A Happy New Year to you and yours to Puck

    Funny thing you should mention the media. I was talking to a guy today who is the manager of a huge car sales company in Queensland. He was telling me that in motor magazines, the articles that list the best cars from No.10 down to No.1 based on test drives by the author of those articles, is nothing but a whole heap of BS. Evidently these so called journalists receive huge money kickbacks from car manufacturers to put their brand of cars further up the list..
    I mean, some people read those magazines like they are the bible, and base their next vehicle purchase on the so called facts that are printed.
    And these guys just KEEP getting away with this kind of stuff.


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    Starting off on the right foot -

    WASHINGTON — In the first two days of the new Congress , Dallas Rep. Pete Sessions cast a series of votes and participated in House committee hearings. But there was one problem: he was not officially sworn in as a member of Congress.

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    Too busy celebrating & gladhanding to observe the House rules I guess.
    There was one other member(almost) who missed swearing in on the House
    floor, but I think they finally got the record straightened out.

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    Congresswoman shot in Arizona

    Gabrielle Giffords, D-AZ, was shot in the head this morning in Tucson.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us...s.html?_r=1&hp

    ETA - up to a dozen people may have been shot, and it's being reported that some have died.
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