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Thread: Anyone with multiple cats had sucess with innapropriate elimination??? UPDATE 11/12

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    Try picking up some "Nature's Miracle" at Petco or somewhere similar - this is an enzymatic cleaner - so removes the things that we cannot smell, but cats can that tells them "pee here!" That, combined with the meds, should help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    But I am need a quick fix like asap. I'll hold her down or put her in a cage and withhold her food to make her take it !...If I have too! It's that or my husband says she has to go. you know what is weird, is her sister always lays in the spot I clean with the carpet cleaner and loves the feline away, Im not so sure Ivy likes it! Thanks soooooo much
    I know that some vets are hesitant to prescribe Clomicalm b/c it was originally intended for dogs but, fortunately, my old vet and my new one both see the wisdom in trying it. My cats have been on it for several years now, approximately 6 years or so. I get their blood work done every year just to be safe and they've had no reaction whatsoever from it. Of course, just as humans are all different, so are cats, so I can't in good conscience say that yours will react just as mine have. I can only tell you that Clomicalm definitely works for my Fur Posse.

    As for getting your kitty to swallow it, the 5 mg. is so small that it's easy to swallow. If you bend her head back slightly and pop it as far back into her throat as possible, then lightly massage her throat to force her to swallow, it'll be over in a nano-second. It's pretty bitter so try not to get it on her tongue. Good luck and please let us know how you make out. Tell your husband to be patient. Some things take more time than others and there's no reason to get rid of a cat for doing what they naturally do. It'll work out; I promise you. Keep the faythe.
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    Update

    I've increased the litterbox scooping to 3x a day with the favorite 2 boxes and the one closest to the bed that they seems to like, and 2x a day for the rest of the boxes. I'm doing this more out of paranoia than that the box actually needs scooping.

    So far have only found pee once since last Fri. And that was a new spot they've never nailed before on the lower kitchen cupboards. At least it was a bit easier to clean, although I think some of it got down at the edge of the linoleum under the cupboard, but I can't smell it, thankfully.

    I finally got a urine sample from Sabrina to recheck hers after her round of antibiotics. Turns out the infection is gone but it's massive Struvite crystals and her Ph is still too high (down to 7.5 from 8.0). So she's now on the Methioform that Josh is on.

    Josh takes his Methioform fairly easily, I just have to break it up into pieces and hand each one to him and he'll gobble it down (don't ask me why he has to eat it from my fingers rather than the bowl now). Sabrina wants her's crushed into a powder and mixed with water then she'll lap it up off the spoon! Not out of a bowl mind you and not crushed without water, and not in whole chunks!!

    So between Jack's regular meds for his Megacolon, I'm also medicating 2 cats for urinary things. Feeding time is definately increasing with all the extra work! lol I hope this doesn't become a permenant thing as no one will ever watch my cats when I'm gone with all the extra work and picky cats!

    I'm supposed to get another urine sample from Josh when he's finished with his meds (which will be Sunday) and the vet wants another one from Sabrina around same time. I'll know more then.

    At least I feel better to know this is most likely still a medical problem, therefore has hope that this is not the norm, as opposed to a behavior problem.

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    I think maybe this time, it is good you have a medical issue!

    My goodness, picky about their meds, aren't they? LOL Hang in there!
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    Heavens!

    Is there a food that will prevent the struivite crystals from reforming?

    I have also read that grain-free foods keep the urine at a good pH and prevent crystal formation. My boys are both neutered and have done extremely well on the grain-free for over a year now.

    Hope all the medical things get resolved soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catlady711 View Post
    At least I feel better to know this is most likely still a medical problem, therefore has hope that this is not the norm, as opposed to a behavior problem.
    Sure hope this is the case, kinda. LOL I don't want to be glad that your kitties are sick. You know what I mean.
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    Took in a urine sample from Bear today. Apparently the last sample was a bit too concentrated but ok otherwise and the vet wanted a recheck on it. Well it's still a teeny bit concentrated, but out of the danger zone (whatever that is) so he's in the clear now.

    Sabrina happened to be using the sandbox today and I went ahead and stuck a cup under her. I knew it hasn't been a week yet but thought maybe we could see if there was any improvement at least already. Vet said ok to run it and was very surprised to find that there were NO crystals at all and Ph back to normal levels already!!! She's only been on the meds since Monday night.

    All but Jack already eat C/D prescription diet specifically for urinary problems. What gets me is that we're still having these problems despite the food. I don't really want to have to be giving Methioform to 2-4 cats forever. No one will pet sit for me if everyone has to be on medications and are so picky about how they take it. *sigh*

    I'm going to get some time and look into the Royal Canin SO food and see if it's supposed to be any better at this problem.

    So far I've only found old pee spots since Wed. In all my paranoid scouring around I managed to find old spots and have them cleaned up now. I still swear I smell cat pee everywhere but I'm pretty sure that's just paranoia rather than actual pee smells.

    Just wanted to give you guys an update and thank you for your continued support and thoughts for me and the kitties.

    I'll try to get some time soon and get new kitty portraits done to post. So far haven't had alot of time for that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Sure hope this is the case, kinda. LOL I don't want to be glad that your kitties are sick. You know what I mean.
    I totally know what you mean.

    RIP Dusty July 2 2007 RIP Sabrina June 16 2011 RIP Jack July 2 2013 RIP Bear July 5 2016 RIP Pooky June 23 2018. RIP Josh July 6 2019 RIP Cami January 6 2022

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    http://www.ehow.com/way_5632350_cat-...er-stones.html

    Preventative Feeding
    # Most veterinarians will recommend a diet for your cat based on human-grade meat, vegetables and fruits that is grain-free, and has reduced carbohydrates. A low-carb diet with higher protein creates acidic urine, which can help prevent the formation of struvite crystals.


    Read more: Cat Food to Prevent Struvite Bladder Stones | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/way_5632350_cat-...#ixzz158YSWM6g

    And OMG - my Google search turned up this PT thread!
    http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=151655
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    I stopped using cheap dry cat food just for that reason. Cheap food causes crystals, especially in male cats. They can be painful. That's why I switched to Wilderness. Best food on earth and cheaper than Royal Canin. Haven't had a problem with crystals since.

    My vet told me that as cats get older, their kidneys have difficulty breaking down and filtering the urine. That's what happened in RB Murphy's case. She was 15 and her kidneys weren't able to filter out the urine.

    Please keep us posted on your kitty's progress.

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