Dig your way out of this mess?

[wombat2u2004]

Yes, we're dicusiing and as far as I'm concerned my views are not the same as yours. As pom said...different people , different values. My values are a mite high to start changing my opinion. As for the Ten Commnadnments people are free to believe or not...you say there are laws that tell you not to kill? Well, the Ten commandments tell you"thou shalt not kill" so Adultery is also agaisnt the law then.
Whatever...if it pleases some to disrespect their vows and lifetime partners so be it, wonder if the future will be worth it? I for one will not have scars from trying to beautify myself for some stranger who happens to make a hobby out of flirting and counting the number of his "hits".
Since I'm considered one of the geese maybe it's time to start flying...''

I might add that I'm so very grateful for the lifelong ideals and morals my parents have instilled in me. No wonder we have so many kids falling through the cracks today, they just don't count as far as the parents are concerned...looking good and bouncing around from bed to bed is more important than being there for the child. Great example for them...
And I did say marriage was hard work, if you can't take the heat, then leave the kitchen.

But these people are consenting adults, they are not doing anything that they believe is wrong. It's not against the law. They are free to choose how they live their own lives.
Why condemn someone who doesn't look up to your expectations as to how they should behave ???

[wombat2u2004]

Sorry kiddies.
I'm still with Marigold on this issue.

[Bonny]

Marriage can be like a hard day at the salt mines. Been there did that am still there doing that will continue to do that. Am I crazy maybe. Maybe a person likes a challenge & that is what marriage is. My hubby has had health problems the last 2 years & the scariest thing in the vows for me was in sickness & in health & now it has come true. Just take one day at a time in- hale x- hale & hope for the best. We are partners to the end.

[wombat2u2004]

Marriage can be like a hard day at the salt mines. Been there did that am still there doing that will continue to do that. Am I crazy maybe. Maybe a person likes a challenge & that is what marriage is. My hubby has had health problems the last 2 years & the scariest thing in the vows for me was in sickness & in health & now it has come true. Just take one day at a time in- hale x- hale & hope for the best. We are partners to the end.

And that is admirable Bonny...it really is.
But the sad fact is......there are a lot of people that don't think like that.

[Bonny]

Maybe I am just old fashioned. But I have seen so many people hurt & hurting. I have to go why? It is not just values it goes deeper then that. It is not just about sex it is the feeling of insecurity, a need of being wanted, there are all kinds of deep emotions that enter into the picture.

[Asiel]

But these people are consenting adults, they are not doing anything that they believe is wrong. It's not against the law. They are free to choose how they live their own lives.
Why condemn someone who doesn't look up to your expectations as to how they should behave ???

Yes, they are consenting aduts even if I think they're acting like spoiled brats who want every toy in the store. But condemning them, no I'm not condeming them, I couldn't care less what they think of my values or opinions. Not doing anything that they believe is wrong? Sorry, the fact they they can be found in seedy motels or out of the way places so they won't be recognized makes me think they know that they are doing wrong. I'll just keep working on my own life and they can do what they want with theirs. I see quite a few elderly people in nursing homes who never get visitors...the reason? They chose to wreck their family in favour of a romp in the hay so the family doesn't have anything to do with them. Are they lonely...you bet, too late for them. That romp in the hay wasn't the answer to their troubles but it hurt a lot of people along the way . You reap what you sow has always been my belief.
Funny how the OP went into hiding after the discussion got under way, must be sitting back laughing , reminds me so much of someone else....stir the honey pot and let's see how many bees I get...


Bonny---I have to agree with you about the "in sickness and in health" part.
Anyone who can work through that one deserves a medal. To so many it would be an excuse to justify walking out, bravo to those who remember their vows...forever and ever till death do you part.

[pomtzu]

Funny how the OP went into hiding after the discussion got under way, must be sitting back laughing , reminds me so much of someone else....stir the honey pot and let's see how many bees I get...

Careful there girl - you might wake the other one up. Let the lion sleep!

[Asiel]

Careful there girl - you might wake the other one up. Let the lion sleep!

Yeah, slipped my mind, sorry about that. Maybe that lion has a thorn in the mouth

[wombat2u2004]

But the lion had some very valid points kids.

[Bonny]

The lioness sure knows how to stir our puddin.

[wombat2u2004]

The lioness sure knows how to stir our puddin.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[pomtzu]

But the lion had some very valid points kids.

You don't know the lion that Asiel and I are referring to. Consider yourself lucky!

[Bonny]

Is it a lion or lioness that you are talking about? Where for art they? Are they in hiding?

[wombat2u2004]

Yeah, slipped my mind, sorry about that. Maybe that lion has a thorn in the mouth

"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."