anyone else suffer from chronic insomnia??

[Catty1]

Jennie - as a medical professional once put it to me, "I am the expert, you are the boss."

You have a total right to get your sleep problem diagnosed properly with sleep professionals to get the correct treatment.

I have a feeling that your shrink will not believe in over-medication unless you very strongly say you want to get off all the meds and start over.

cassiesmom mentioned rebound insomnia. One type happens after a person comes off sleep meds, and is temporary while the body readjusts its schedule. The other is caused by sleeping meds - link and details below.

http://web4health.info/gr/answers/sl...d-insomnia.htm
Question(s):

Written by: Martin Winkler
First version: 22 Jul 2008. Latest revision: 27 Aug 2008.
Why do I experience a worsening of sleep after using a sleeping pill? What is rebound insomnia?
Answer:
Many sleeping pills have a negative influence on the sleep architecture, and cause non-restorative sleep.

Rebound insomnia is defied as a worsening of (at least) one of the following parameters compared to the time before starting drug treatment:

* sleep latency = time until you fall asleep
* nocturnal awakenings = waking up at night
* total sleep time

And you have to feel either

* sensation of non-restorative sleep
* diurnal fatigue
* worsening of anxiety / tension

Drugs with moderate or severe rebound insomnia effects are :

Benzodiazepines
* Triazolam (Halcion)
* Midazolam (Dormicum)
* Brotizolam (Dormex, Noctilan, Lendomin)
* Loprazepam (Dormonoct)
* Lormetazepam (Noctanid)
* Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol, Fluscand)

Non-benzodiazepines
* Zopiclone

Sometimes, withdrawal effects or hang-over cause additional complaints for the patients.

[pomtzu]

I don't know that I would trust a doc that prescribes another med on top of all the others, at the drop of a hat. You're taking so many powerful meds right now, that I don't know how you can even stay awake! I would think that they would knock you flat on your butt!

My brother had a similar problem, tho not sleep related. His doc had him on so many different meds for high b/p, cholesterol, non insulin dependent diabetes, arthritis, heart and circulation issues, back problems, and I don't know what else, but he was like a walking zombie and could barely function. He couldn't even sit down without falling asleep in a matter of a couple of minutes. He took himself off all but what was absolutely needed, and he improved dramatically.

I still believe that doctors get kickbacks for prescribing certain meds. It seems that some are more concerned with their own wallets, than that of the health and welfare of their patients.

[lizbud]

I just wanted to add one more thought. Doctors are human beings too
and subject to the same failings as all of us. I trust my Dr too, but I also
trust the way my body feels and it I wasn't getting the best results, I'd
certainly say something about it.

I can just imagine all the "confusion" in a human body taking so many
different things at the same time. I sure hope you get this cleared up
soon. I know it's no fun at all for you.

[carole]

I can well empathise i have had a sleep disorder for over 14 yrs now, and i thought things were bad until now, they are worse than ever, as i am at that time of life, where the hormones are crazy, i can get to sleep ok, but never can stay asleep, i just lie with my eyes closed, i never get up or go and watch tv or read, for me that is the worst thing i could do because i will develop a habit, a bad one, i just have to hope that i will eventually fall back to sleep, which i do,but i can lie there for hours some nights, each night is different, some worse than others.

I used to go to bed early ,now i go to bed quite late, and read myself to sleep, it works a bit better as the nights are now shorter, sometimes i lie there just waiting for a hint of daylight, hoping it is time to get up, luckily for me i can take a nap during the day, which i often do to make sure i get enough sleep .]

I also tried herbal tea that is especially for getting to sleep, it helped a little, well so i thought, but in hindsight think it really did not do to much.

I would never take medication for it, it would not work for me anyhow, i am one of those people because of another health problem never go into rem, so we are told anyhow.

I have no answers, but just know you are not alone, millions of people world wide have this problem, i can only wish for a solution that works for you and say sweet dreams.,i also wish that for myself lol.

[RICHARD]

http://creativedreaming.org/patricia-garfield/

Ditch the meds and get to bed.

I can put myself to sleep so fast I don't even THINK about it.

Unless I am really stressed out? I can knock myself out in less than 5 minutes and even DREAM WHAT I WANT.

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It's easier to drop a pill than it is to really take a few days to read, and a few evenings to practice, how to put yourself to sleep.

Read the book and try some of the techniques.

You are just lying there tossing and turning, put your mind to work.

It sounds like SoCal, Hippy, New Age horsecrap.

Maybe, but, I am not losing any sleep over it.

Pun intended.


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Tell you what would make me lose sleep.

Worrying about the side of effects any medication.

I have been up since 4:15, I am going back to sleep.