200,000 Gallons A Day

[Lady's Human]

And all that will be accomplished by the popular cry to punish the oil companies will be precisely that: Prices will be raised to pay the fines, and then the same populists will be launching a congressional investigation into why prices are so high at the pump.....

Clean up the mess and move on.

Figure out why it happened, and prevent it from happening again.

You can punish a person, but you CANNOT punish a company..........as the costs of the punishment are passed on to everyone else.

[Kater]

If you want to *do something*....

Contact your elected Senators and Reps and let them know that they will be voted out of office if they don't ban off-shore drilling this session, and provide the funding to make environmental laws enforceable.


...assuming you share my politics and absolute horror at this mess. Just my $0.02.

[Lady's Human]

Banning offshore drilling?

And you're going to heat your home in Colorado how?

I'm with Puckstop......I could easily survive living a 19th century existence, but I'd prefer not to.

Banning Nukes after TMI got us some REALLY good results..........

[pomtzu]

Banning offshore drilling?

And why aren't the oil companies drilling in shallower water, instead of 5000' deep? It has been reported that there are known oil deposits in much shallower water, and an accident such as happened, would obviously be much easier to contain/repair. Of course, I don't know the first thing about oil drilling, but it seems that would make a whole heck of a lot more sense.

You can punish a person, but you CANNOT punish a company..........as the costs of the punishment are passed on to everyone else.

Exactly!!!



I also find it inappropriate that the Pres isn't in DC this weekend!

[cassiesmom]

I also find it inappropriate that the Pres isn't in DC this weekend!

He's in Chicago, although he went from here to Louisiana to assess the oil spill situation, and then came back. They were seen attending a barbecue at the neighbors' house. When they're home it causes even worse traffic tie-ups because they have to shut down one section of the expressway (which is already under construction) at a time to get him and the First Fam and the dog to and from the airport. It was reported in the Chicago Tribune that Michelle was working in their garden before they headed for the party.

I heard on the news today that the top kill hasn't worked, so it is likely that nothing further will be effective in containing the spill till at least August when they can drill a second well.

[pomtzu]

He's in Chicago, although he went from here to Louisiana to assess the oil spill situation, and then came back. They were seen attending a barbecue at the neighbors' house. When they're home it causes even worse traffic tie-ups because they have to shut down one section of the expressway (which is already under construction) at a time to get him and the First Fam and the dog to and from the airport. It was reported in the Chicago Tribune that Michelle was working in their garden before they headed for the party.

I heard on the news today that the top kill hasn't worked, so it is likely that nothing further will be effective in containing the spill till at least August when they can drill a second well.

I know that he's in Chicago. My point was that he should have been in DC to participate in some of the events going on there, or at least been there for a wreath laying ceremony. There are so many memorials in the DC area that honor the fallen, it's really a shame that our obviously healthy and vigorous president saw fit not to be there at any of them.

[momoffuzzyfaces]

I know that he's in Chicago. My point was that he should have been in DC to participate in some of the events going on there, or at least been there for a wreath laying ceremony. There are so many memorials in the DC area that honor the fallen, it's really a shame that our obviously healthy and vigorous president saw fit not to be there at any of them.

AND in the meantime, he has the leaders of Isriel and Pakastain chillin in DC waiting for him to come home so he can have a meeting with them tomorrow.

[cassiesmom]

I know that he's in Chicago. My point was that he should have been in DC to participate in some of the events going on there, or at least been there for a wreath laying ceremony. There are so many memorials in the DC area that honor the fallen, it's really a shame that our obviously healthy and vigorous president saw fit not to be there at any of them.

It's poured down rain for most of the day, so they weren't even able to hold the memorial service this morning down at Lincoln Cemetery. The President returned to Chicago by helicopter (thank goodness - no traffic snarls if he goes up and over it) because the First Fam is scheduled to fly back to Washington this afternoon. On the noon news they said the service will still be held today if the weather breaks.

One more question about the oil. If they can sand bag river banks to keep water from overflowing, would it be possible to somehow sand bag the shores to keep the oil from getting up onto the beach? I saw on the news that they were trying to capture some of the birds and release them into oil-free water in Florida.

[RICHARD]

Banning offshore drilling?

And you're going to heat your home in Colorado how?

I'm with Puckstop......I could easily survive living a 19th century existence, but I'd prefer not to.

Banning Nukes after TMI got us some REALLY good results..........

You have a wood chopper!

I was watching an interview with some kind of hotel owner.

He was all p.o.ed and talking about how the OCs need to pay him b/c the hotel was operating at a 40% decrease in occupancy.

I have been on vacation at the beach and never went near the water.

LOL, I wasn't about to carry a full cooler of beer and food to the beach then lug it back while I was all jacked up, tired, sunburnt and lugging a crotch full of sand in my shorts.

Be creative, discount the rooms, figure out how to make the Spring Break shenanigans family friendly and sell, sell, sell.

Should that greedy -- get an oil company settlement? he'll make money on it. He sure as ---- won't pay the people he layed off and will save on operating costs.

Just like government.

Lining up all the excuses to worry about now and never looking at the problem and how to make the best of a real hard time.

Child please!

[pomtzu]

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Be creative, discount the rooms, figure out how to make the Spring Break shenanigans family friendly and sell, sell, sell.

Lining up all the excuses to worry about now and never looking at the problem and how to make the best of a real hard time.

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Discount the rooms - all well and good - but the folks who are looking for that beach vacation just aren't going to come, if there is no accessible beach to go to.

How about that restaurant owner that specializes in all those wonderful seafood dishes from the Gulf waters harvest. No seafood = no customers.

And the fisherman who make their living on their boats. If the waters are polluted then they can't very well take contaminated fish to market to sell, not to mention the eventual cleanup costs of their oil laden vessels.

How do you tell these folks to just deal with it?

[wombat2u2004]

How do you tell these folks to just deal with it?

I betcha that's all that will happen.

[pomtzu]

I betcha that's all that will happen.

Unfortunately, you're probably right, if they get that much even.

I feel so bad for all that have been affected, all because of BP's greed and total disregard for the safety of their workers, and even less when it comes to the damage that they have done to this beautiful area of our country that will suffer for many years to come.

[RICHARD]

How do you tell these folks to just deal with it?

No, I don't ask them to deal with it.

I want them to rise above it.

Having been thru a few 'natural disasters" I know enogh not to depend on the city, state or government for aid?

After the 94 Earthquake I remember seeing - will use this term with a great amount of respect - wetbacks working their arses off, cleaning out homes and yards of earthquake rubble.

The ones that had no cars, piled the stuff out on the street. The ones with cars charged a fair fee to load up the rubble and take it to the dump.

The impotent knuckleheads left the piles of trash in front of their homes for the city to pick up. It was MONTHS before you could drive down a street and not see a pile of brick, drywall, wood and stuff that wasn't EQ damage on the streets.

The people who wanted to move on with life didn't wait for anyone to show up and help.

Most of the people who got FEMA money spent it on other things, not home repair..

What I am suggesting is that people make the most of a situation.....

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Let's put this into terms we all can appreciate?


During the winter I read stories of people who could not shovel a drive or walkway in front of their homes.

They had to wait for a neighbor or relative to shovel the snow.

Wait for your local government to come out.

What do they tell you?

They'll clear out the street and gutter- sidewalk and path to your house?

Pay more taxes!

Sometimes you get a bunch of kids, who have no fear of work, get together and start up a little neighborhood company.

I'll shovel the snow on your walkway, once a week for 10 dollars.

Those are the kids that end up with a 500 jillion dollar company.

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If people deal with it? They are the folks you see on the news complaining about the assistance from the government.

You'll never hear about the people who do thins for themselves.

They don't have time to talk .

they are rebuilding their lives?

[Grace]

I agree with your premise, Richard, but cleaning up after a hurricane or earthquake is a tad bit different than capping a leaking oil well a mile under the sea.

And, yes, they can work at cleaning up the oil on the shoreline - but not if it keeps rolling on in.