Arizona immigration law

[RICHARD]

IS a Medicare/AARP card valid I.D. in Arizona?

[blue]

I think I see now why people think this law is racist, its a 2 part issue...

Part 1. If people are here illegally they must be Mexicans.

This is flat out not true but the news media, and the liberal political hacks want you to believe it.

Part 2. All laws are racist.

If you are pulled over for driving on the wrong side of the street with a pint of Guinness in your hand, its not because your here illegally, its because of the color of your skin.

[wombat2u2004]

I think I see now why people think this law is racist, its a 2 part issue...

Part 1. If people are here illegally they must be Mexicans.

This is flat out not true but the news media, and the liberal political hacks want you to believe it.

Part 2. All laws are racist.

If you are pulled over for driving on the wrong side of the street with a pint of Guinness in your hand, its not because your here illegally, its because of the color of your skin.

Part 1. Why ?? For what reason would they single out Mexicans ???

Part 2. No, laws are not racist. Laws are put in place for all people, and apply to everyone whether one is blue, black, white or purple.
People who are pulled over because of the colour of their skin, is done so because most crimes are committed by coloured people.

[kokopup]

wom

People who are pulled over because of the colour of their skin, is done so because most crimes are committed by coloured people.

In the US you are not allowed to make statements like this because it is not "politically correct"(1) or you are a racist (2), or both. That is just how it is.

[wombat2u2004]

wom


In the US you are not allowed to make statements like this because it is not "politically correct"(1) or you are a racist (2), or both. That is just how it is.

I didn't make the statement in the US. I made it in Australia.
And if that statement hurt the feelings of the powers who be, then perhaps you should vote for someone who won't hide from the truth.

[kokopup]

I know it to be the truth also, but because of where I live I am not allowed to speak the truth without being called a racist.

[wombat2u2004]

I know it to be the truth also, but because of where I live I am not allowed to speak the truth without being called a racist.

Ahhhhhhh....well that sounds to me like you are all being taken for a ride.

[RICHARD]

If you are pulled over for driving on the wrong side of the street with a pint of Guinness in your hand, its not because your here illegally, its because of the color of your skin.

That sounds like an illegal (pale) Irishman to me.

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I do not want to start a 'border war' here, but-

One bothersome facet of the conversation, across the land is the idea that we do and will harbor lawbreakers living amongst us.

I have no qualms about people coming to the States and being part of the pretty good deal we have here.

I just am appalled by the idea that we turn a blind eye towards parts of the problem.


As I suggested before-regarding the nitwits in Guantanamo Bay-people's hearts bleed for the group that want to do harm to us.

So, if you really care about terrorists we have in locked up in jail?

Sponsor one and have them come live in your home. Seriously.

Show them your hospitality by letting them experience all the things they hate about us-they just might change their minds about how we live.

Sponsor an Illegal Alien.

Bring them into your home/garage and let them live off of your good nature and spoils.

Pay for their insurance, allow them to drive your cars with no license, insurance or knowledge of the laws.

Pay for their medical costs, welfare and give them food from your kitchen.

We already do-inviting them into our REAL homes will let you get a first hand experience with their plight.

No, I am not being mean. I just want to illustrate a point-we just make it worse for them and us by allowing this farce to go on.


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When you see a debate regarding this topic be very wary of who is on the panel.

There will always be the professor/teacher with the 'latin' last name that makes it sound like the U.S. government routinely tortures the illegals by uprooting them and sending them back to their countries. These are the morons who have worked THEIR way into positions by taking advantage of the rules and laws that allowed them to jump ahead in the "line/queue of life".
Their a-holery allows them to become activists for the cause and they gain a bloated and misplaced admiration from the people they defend.

The Mexican government officials refuse to enforce the US/Mex border because they do not want the people who have moved up thru the country to clog up their northern borders. They show up at the table with they sad eyes and say that they also suffer from the influx of illegals into their country.

It's way better to let them percolate up into the US, they become our problem.


And, while I admire the people who look at it more as a human rights issue?

It rankles my rear that it's solely looked at in that light. It's way more involved than uprooting people who are here in the states illegally.


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I was watching a Nat Geo program about the AZ border.

The drug cartels and THEIR contributions to the problems are just bringing more problems to an already over taxed Border Patrol.

[lizbud]

Actually, anyone who isn't a Native American is an illegal immigrant.

[Marigold2]

OMG someone please call the fashion police.

[RICHARD]

Actually, anyone who isn't a Native American is an illegal immigrant.

Hence my asking you all to bug out of the U.S. by the 15th, yet you are all still here.


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I have to chime in here because I was thinking about a situation in my family that is going on at the moment-it also brings in the idea that calling people "insects" is wrong.


Part of my parent's estate includes a home they bought, paid for, and rented out.

After the 94 earthquake the renters moved out and I helped my dad renovate parts of the home by putting in drywall.

It's a small two bed/1 BR and had charm.

The next set of tenants moved in and began the destruction of the place.

When they moved out, they TOOK THE WATER HEATER and replaced it with a POS one they found.

The next set of tenants moved in and soon were joined by 6-7 people.

They moved and w.o telling my mom and turned the place over to another family.

During this time my AH brother began to pick up the rent and 'took over' maintaining the place. (I was the one who would go over and fix things because he is inept and cannot fix things to save his life.) Thank god it's his problem now-there's more to the drama, but that is more family than immigrants.

He was raising the rent on the tenants until they got smart and began to call the city for things that went wrong with the place.

They are illegal aliens and use the laws here to protect them and make life harder for the legitimate folks in the community.

(When I went to collect the rent after my mother's death, the POS woman told me that I would not get it because I had to show a letter from an attorney..)


I fixed a sliding window at the back of the property, It was broken to put in an air conditioner. The drywall was smashed and holed all over the house, the house stinks of rancid grease and door jambs are written on and carved into.

All the windows were replaced in the summer of 08 and most are broken, again.

They built a shed next to the garage, wired it from the house and put a washer and dryer inside. They routed the gray water into the cesspool and flood the back yard repeatedly.

They have about 6 cars parked in the front yard of the house and have killed any vegetation in the area.

The house started as a nice little place and has turned into nothing more than a frame with open windows and holes in the walls.


All because my mom and brother would not take a stand against these people who act and live like animals because they are afraid of having the city come down on THEIR heads because of the conditions these morons cause for themselves.

There, I said it.

They act like insects/locusts/animal and devour/destroy everything in their path, yet refuse to respect the owners of the homes that they are allowed to live in.

So, while everyone deserves the right to live and prosper?

These morons scream about justice and human rights when they are the biggest problem in areas of our country.

They refuse to intergrate legally and when they show up illegally, they have no qualms about throwing our laws into out faces.

God bless em, they pretty much put it all on the line by getting here, but GDI,
they could show some respect for dirt that they live on.

[RICHARD]

I am seriously raging about the fantasy of Human Rights.

Having your HRs violated is living in Darfur with a screwed up government.

It's living on the hills of Rio de J and having your house disappear under a landslide.

It's betting stoned for being a woman in and Arab country..

IT's having limbs cut off as punsihment for crimes.


Seriously?

Just like the post about the burqa wearing beeyotch that gets a ticket then begins to complain about the laws of that land?

We bend over backwards-washing stations for cabbies in Chicago?- to make immigrants feel at home and we get, in return-slapped in the face while these people try and wear down our laws.


Trust me, soon we will have a 'made up' holiday, like Kwanzaa, just for the Arab population. all because we are violating their human rights for not giving them a paid holiday...


You guys can give them what they want.

I live in America.

[Bonny]

I haven't left the U.S. by May 15th because I don't have my papers in order to enter Mexico legally as yet. I hope you can give me some more time to get things together. No one wants to sponsor me? If I had a sponsor I could get out of here & move across the border legally. I need a sponsor that would treat me with respect. I will do an honest days work for an honest days pay. Anyone out there hiring?

[wombat2u2004]

Well said Richard.
We extend the helping hand only to be bitten. And if we speak out against that, it's called racism.
The cretins who run our country's listen to people like Caseysmom who believe that the human rights for illegal immigrants are more important than the human rights of residents within her own country.
For want of a better label for illegal immigrants, lets just call them "Queue Jumpers", for that is exactly what they are.

I am seriously raging about the fantasy of Human Rights.

Having your HRs violated is living in Darfur with a screwed up government.

It's living on the hills of Rio de J and having your house disappear under a landslide.

It's betting stoned for being a woman in and Arab country..

IT's having limbs cut off as punsihment for crimes.


Seriously?

Just like the post about the burqa wearing beeyotch that gets a ticket then begins to complain about the laws of that land?

We bend over backwards-washing stations for cabbies in Chicago?- to make immigrants feel at home and we get, in return-slapped in the face while these people try and wear down our laws.


Trust me, soon we will have a 'made up' holiday, like Kwanzaa, just for the Arab population. all because we are violating their human rights for not giving them a paid holiday...


You guys can give them what they want.

I live in America.

[wombat2u2004]

They don't have any cards....I bet they are illegal immigrants... I can tell just by looking at them.
They are wearing sombreros....it's what gives them away every time.

IS a Medicare/AARP card valid I.D. in Arizona?