What makes a dog bite?

[buttercup132]

Is this aimed at me? Did I do something to you? At 1st I thought it was, but for the most part, I've been sweet to people on here for years unless they say something terribly off base and crazy. Even in my responses here, I've kept things pleasant.



1st of all Walter has structure. There are certain things he cannot handle, crates and yelling are 2 he freaks out about. So bad that he actually will lose control of his urine and pee where he stands. He is TERRIFIED and I refuse to put him through any stress that isn't completely needed. I do let him get away with a few things because of his past that I do not let the other dogs get away with.

For example, since he was 6 years old, and never potty trained, I use positive reinforcement to train him to go on a puppy pad. I would not let the other dogs do that, and if the others pee in the house they get yelled at and immediately go outside. That just won't work for Walter.

It's amazing how a blanket statement like, 'he doesn't have structure' can just be thrown out when one literally has no specific details on the situation.

No it wasn't to you it was about King, I dont even know if thats her user name anymore.

Letting him go on a pee pad isn't something I would consider letting him get away with, I mean like eating off your plate while you are eating and letting him. That kind of getting away with things.

Pomtzu no actually I'm not just people who assume dogs are aggressive when they aren't.

There are people who were on here way before you who can testify to that, like Erica of course most people have left who were on when I was.

[bckrazy]

I have to agree with Buttercup... PT is very different, with very different members. I remember when I used to learn something new every time I came here. It was such a source of knowledge and information for me. I'm not saying that it isn't anymore, but dangerous/ignorant/hateful advice and threads about how irresponsibly owned dogs should die just hurts my heart. And when people try to talk some sense (like in Pomtzu's loose dog thread) they're called names and/or the thread is deleted because it becomes clear who is speaking from an educated viewpoint.

Let me just say, that King was not too popular years ago because of her kill-first-ask-questions-later feelings toward all sorts of animals.

[king2005]

EDIT: Off topic so out of respect I removed what I said...

[buttercup132]

I thought people hated me because I raised feeder mice/rats for personal use. People were also livid with me becuase I didn't want to "buy" my feeders from a pet store... & because some of my pets eat them live. Now a days, people understand it, so I don't get flamed for it.

I know I'm still hated cause I support the Seal Hunt, but I'm against the law breakers OF the Seal Hunt that allow suffering to happen during it. Suffering IS illegal.. most just don't know that.

People also hated me because I had guns (I'm the devil or something, can't remember what the person called me.. its been so long), Even though I have never gone hunting. Which I also support & want to take part in.

In this post some assumed I meant that all nipping/bitting dogs should die... I tried to explain that bitting for a reason isn't a reason to kill a dog. But random bitting is, which is really hard to explain in text.. Too many think in black & white & assume what I said is only in black & white.. They forget the grey

Remember that expressing how you feel/think in text is hard... its so easy to word something incorrectly, or say something that has a double meaning.. esp when you're dyslexic(me), or your first language isn't English(also me).

anyways... I'll leave this thread alone..

And because of the Rotti and little dog you adopted then had pts.

And people werent mad at you for raising feeder mice..it was the fact that you treated them like pets that was the sick part.

Pomtzu does it makes you feel good that you come to any thread I post in and say I put everyone down.
Are you jealous that I have more knowledge when it comes to dogs?

[Taz_Zoee]

Pomtzu does it makes you feel good that you come to any thread I post in and say I put everyone down.
Are you jealous that I have more knowledge when it comes to dogs?

Please, just stop. You mentioned how you left PT and moved on to "better" things. Then why must you still come back and cause problems?

It's sad really. I enjoyed seeing your animals, but now I am afraid to read your posts because I just know it's going to start some drama.

[Daisy and Delilah]

Please, just stop. You mentioned how you left PT and moved on to "better" things. Then why must you still come back and cause problems?

It's sad really. I enjoyed seeing your animals, but now I am afraid to read your posts because I just know it's going to start some drama.

I agree. It seems that BC only shows up when there is a possible controversy she can get into. If you don't like this board, move away from it 100%.

I wish I knew half as much about anything as you think you know about dogs. You never change. Your arrogance never waivers and your desire to argue never waivers.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[buttercup132]

Please, just stop. You mentioned how you left PT and moved on to "better" things. Then why must you still come back and cause problems?

It's sad really. I enjoyed seeing your animals, but now I am afraid to read your posts because I just know it's going to start some drama.

I dont come back to cause problems not my fault people dont agree with what I say even if it is right.

[Taz_Zoee]

I dont come back to cause problems not my fault people dont agree with what I say even if it is right.

I'm not saying you are right or wrong in your posts. The problem I have with your knowledge is how you deliver it. You always put the person down and speak rudely toward them. Like in this thread. Of course you went back and changed the original rude post.
You want people to respect you and your information you want to share, yet you can't respect other peoples opinions or comments.

[Alysser]

I dont come back to cause problems not my fault people dont agree with what I say even if it is right.

Wow, this thread has gotten way off track since I first read it. But this post is plain ignorance. You mentioned people don't agree with you even it it is right, but all your posts are based on opinions. Who are you to judge the "structure" of a dog's life that you don't even know over the internet? and Who are you to say you know more about dogs than someone else you don't even know?? We all have different ways of training and living with dogs, and we all share opinions - but they are just that, OPINIONS. None of it is right or wrong. What works for you might not work for someone else. There are ways of teaching people without coming off as being rude.

You will not always be "right" in someone else's opinion and you don't know everything about dogs. You may know a decent amount but you don't know everything. Saying that just makes you look ignorant...


Oh and sorry if my dog PLAY bites hard that I'm not going to put him to sleep for it..that's way to radical in my opinion. Biting is different in every situation and with every dog. Biting isn't something to ignore, no, but it's not something to get totally crazy over the first time it happens. Biting isn't just biting, it's different in all cases. You can have a play bite, which my dog happens to do quite often and it does hurt, but he doesn't do it out of harm and he's easy to control and does know when to stop. You can have fear biting, aggression, etc. I think there are alternatives rather than putting a dog to sleep right away, I think that's a little to harsh unless it escalates much worse.

[pomtzu]

Pomtzu does it makes you feel good that you come to any thread I post in and say I put everyone down.
Are you jealous that I have more knowledge when it comes to dogs?

If the shoe fits BC - then wear it. I guess it's comparable to your uncalled for comments in my thread - right???

It doesn't make me feel good to discredit anyone, and that's not the intention here. I just get tired of the know-it-alls sitting on their lofty throne and slinging crap at others who they feel are below them.

And me - jealous of you - for any reason - is totally ludicrous and laughable at the same time. And there you go again, saying you have more knowledge of dogs than I do??? And just what do you base that statement on??? Putting me down, are you??? Sure looks that way........

[king2005]

And because of the Rotti and little dog you adopted then had pts.

For the LAST TIME, they were NOT MY DOGS!!!!! I had no say in their fates
Besides, the hate started MANY years before them, & I still have no idea where Bear(rottie) IS!! Like I said, NOT my dogs!

EDIT:
& if you had been paying ANY attention to the THS & the posts I had about the the little dog, then you WOULD KNOW THAT THE LITTLE DOG WASN'T PUT DOWN!!!!

You claim to be educated, but you put blame where it doesn't belong. You should KNOW the Canadian Laws, & you should KNOW, I had no Rights in either of those Dogs fates. Maybe your not as educated as you think you are.

And people werent mad at you for raising feeder mice..it was the fact that you treated them like pets that was the sick part.

They were mad at me for raising feeder Rats. I'm the one that got the hate mail about feeders & having predator pets.

The adults were cared for with Respect & NEVER became feeders! Some of the adults were more then breeders, they were pets. I didn't raise the babies as pets, as they weren't.. they were feeders, but I raised them with respect, like they deserved.. Just like our Cows, chickens & Pigs deserve! I refuse to lower myself like those farmers do, they are in it for the $$ only & have no issues pumping their livestock full of chemicals.. or allowing their live stock to walk on broken legs or sore feet.. I did my best to keep the feeders healthy & sane... There is no reason they should live in sheer terror & hell before becoming a meal.

I still believe in that too!

[dab_20]

i have to agree with buttercup... Pt is very different, with very different members. I remember when i used to learn something new every time i came here. It was such a source of knowledge and information for me. I'm not saying that it isn't anymore, but dangerous/ignorant/hateful advice and threads about how irresponsibly owned dogs should die just hurts my heart. And when people try to talk some sense (like in pomtzu's loose dog thread) they're called names and/or the thread is deleted because it becomes clear who is speaking from an educated viewpoint.

+1

[pomtzu]

And when people try to talk some sense (like in Pomtzu's loose dog thread) they're called names and/or the thread is deleted because it becomes clear who is speaking from an educated viewpoint.

(

Yes - I deleted that thread. Why??? - because it had served it's purpose and it became clear to me, that it was now only attracting the pot-stirrers. Most people posted very sensible comments and suggestions, but there were those bad apples whose only purpose was to try to cause trouble. As far as the educated viewpoint??? - can't say that there were any from those who wanted an argument. They apparently think their word is gospel, however, they need to put a sock in it until they can walk in my shoes and can personally view the situation at hand.

[king2005]

No it wasn't to you it was about King, I dont even know if thats her user name anymore.

Me?

Also who's Erica?

Just so I can understand whats going on lol

[buttercup132]

Erica is bckrazy...

And yes you.

Thank you Erica, I may not say it in the nicest way but after leaving PT I moved onto much better things and learned a lot more then you could learn here.

Go try joining some other dog forums, you will get shot down pretty fast with the way you guys think.