What makes a dog bite?

[Cataholic]

Your theory is bull , why not do some research on dogs and dog psychology.

There could be a lot of reasons as to why you were bit but without knowing the dog and being there no one will be able to answer your question.
It could have been something you did that you were totally oblivious to but set the dog off.

LOL, I didn't even see your response until just now. Thanks to my pals for sticking up for me.

The irony of it is- you completely support my theory, "all dogs bite, it is just a matter of when" when you say,

There could be a lot of reasons as to why you were bit but without knowing the dog and being there no one will be able to answer your question.
It could have been something you did that you were totally oblivious to but set the dog off.

That is exactly my point! We are humans, they are dogs, we speak different languages, and we do not know- often times- what sets them off and causes a reaction, like biting.

Read, think, breathe, and read again before you spout off.

[buttercup132]

LOL, I didn't even see your response until just now. Thanks to my pals for sticking up for me.

The irony of it is- you completely support my theory, "all dogs bite, it is just a matter of when" when you say,



That is exactly my point! We are humans, they are dogs, we speak different languages, and we do not know- often times- what sets them off and causes a reaction, like biting.

Read, think, breathe, and read again before you spout off.

Maybe I should have explained better then, not every dog has things that set them off. Dog with traumatic past, poor breeding etc are the ones who you dont know what could set them off, usually still you have some idea that your dog is like that. It's not your dog is happy and healthy half its life then bites because it saw someone dressed in black.
Also dogs who have no structure in their life (which is A LOT of dogs now a days) will bite to defend themselves because their owner is under them and they cant trust their owner.

[My Peanuts]

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Also dogs who have no structure in their life (which is A LOT of dogs now a days) will bite to defend themselves because their owner is under them and they cant trust their owner.[/QUOTE]

I don't think this was aimed at me but I wanted to comment. Walter has structure, but we aren't very strict with him. He is 7lbs and the cage he lived in for 6 straight years was so tiny that his legs never devolped correctly. HOW SMALL WAS THAT CAGE! I don't want to know.

If that was me, I would have mental issues for sure. Walter gets away with more than the other dogs for sure, but it's not like I let him run wild.

(also, just wanted to comment-next time anyone is thinking about buying a dog from a pet shop, please think about Walter and all he lived through. The parents of that puppy are more than likely in a tiny cage, with burns on their feet, eating garbage)

In case you want to put a face to a name, Walter is the black guy in the middle. The other 2 are 2 of his 3 brothers. Billy is the brown Min Pin and Willy is the black and white Fox Terrier.

[buttercup132]

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Also dogs who have no structure in their life (which is A LOT of dogs now a days) will bite to defend themselves because their owner is under them and they cant trust their owner.

I don't think this was aimed at me but I wanted to comment. Walter has structure, but we aren't very strict with him. He is 7lbs and the cage he lived in for 6 straight years was so tiny that his legs never devolped correctly. HOW SMALL WAS THAT CAGE! I don't want to know.

If that was me, I would have mental issues for sure. Walter gets away with more than the other dogs for sure, but it's not like I let him run wild.

(also, just wanted to comment-next time anyone is thinking about buying a dog from a pet shop, please think about Walter and all he lived through. The parents of that puppy are more than likely in a tiny cage, with burns on their feet, eating garbage)

In case you want to put a face to a name, Walter is the black guy in the middle. The other 2 are 2 of his 3 brothers. Billy is the brown Min Pin and Willy is the black and white Fox Terrier.

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You just said he gets away with a lot so no he doesn't have structure.
If he had teeth that would be a mess to each your own but just because he has no teeth doesnt mean it's right.

Erica there is no point, you know how she is from years ago there is no getting through to her. She put you on her ignore list or say she wishes to not answer that

[My Peanuts]

Erica there is no point, you know how she is from years ago there is no getting through to her. She put you on her ignore list or say she wishes to not answer that

Is this aimed at me? Did I do something to you? At 1st I thought it was, but for the most part, I've been sweet to people on here for years unless they say something terribly off base and crazy. Even in my responses here, I've kept things pleasant.

You just said he gets away with a lot so no he doesn't have structure.
If he had teeth that would be a mess to each your own but just because he has no teeth doesnt mean it's right.

1st of all Walter has structure. There are certain things he cannot handle, crates and yelling are 2 he freaks out about. So bad that he actually will lose control of his urine and pee where he stands. He is TERRIFIED and I refuse to put him through any stress that isn't completely needed. I do let him get away with a few things because of his past that I do not let the other dogs get away with.

For example, since he was 6 years old, and never potty trained, I use positive reinforcement to train him to go on a puppy pad. I would not let the other dogs do that, and if the others pee in the house they get yelled at and immediately go outside. That just won't work for Walter.

It's amazing how a blanket statement like, 'he doesn't have structure' can just be thrown out when one literally has no specific details on the situation.

[caseysmom]

Is this aimed at me? Did I do something to you? At 1st I thought it was, but for the most part, I've been sweet to people on here for years unless they say something terribly off base and crazy. Even in my responses here, I've kept things pleasant.



1st of all Walter has structure. There are certain things he cannot handle, crates and yelling are 2 he freaks out about. So bad that he actually will lose control of his urine and pee where he stands. He is TERRIFIED and I refuse to put him through any stress that isn't completely needed. I do let him get away with a few things because of his past that I do not let the other dogs get away with.

For example, since he was 6 years old, and never potty trained, I use positive reinforcement to train him to go on a puppy pad. I would not let the other dogs do that, and if the others pee in the house they get yelled at and immediately go outside. That just won't work for Walter.

It's amazing how a blanket statement like, 'he doesn't have structure' can just be thrown out when one literally has no specific details on the situation.

Let it go...I would take those insults with grain of salt. They are ignore worthy.

[pomtzu]

Let it go...I would take those insults with grain of salt. They are ignore worthy.

Agreed. BC talks down to everybody!

[buttercup132]

Is this aimed at me? Did I do something to you? At 1st I thought it was, but for the most part, I've been sweet to people on here for years unless they say something terribly off base and crazy. Even in my responses here, I've kept things pleasant.



1st of all Walter has structure. There are certain things he cannot handle, crates and yelling are 2 he freaks out about. So bad that he actually will lose control of his urine and pee where he stands. He is TERRIFIED and I refuse to put him through any stress that isn't completely needed. I do let him get away with a few things because of his past that I do not let the other dogs get away with.

For example, since he was 6 years old, and never potty trained, I use positive reinforcement to train him to go on a puppy pad. I would not let the other dogs do that, and if the others pee in the house they get yelled at and immediately go outside. That just won't work for Walter.

It's amazing how a blanket statement like, 'he doesn't have structure' can just be thrown out when one literally has no specific details on the situation.

No it wasn't to you it was about King, I dont even know if thats her user name anymore.

Letting him go on a pee pad isn't something I would consider letting him get away with, I mean like eating off your plate while you are eating and letting him. That kind of getting away with things.

Pomtzu no actually I'm not just people who assume dogs are aggressive when they aren't.

There are people who were on here way before you who can testify to that, like Erica of course most people have left who were on when I was.

[bckrazy]

I have to agree with Buttercup... PT is very different, with very different members. I remember when I used to learn something new every time I came here. It was such a source of knowledge and information for me. I'm not saying that it isn't anymore, but dangerous/ignorant/hateful advice and threads about how irresponsibly owned dogs should die just hurts my heart. And when people try to talk some sense (like in Pomtzu's loose dog thread) they're called names and/or the thread is deleted because it becomes clear who is speaking from an educated viewpoint.

Let me just say, that King was not too popular years ago because of her kill-first-ask-questions-later feelings toward all sorts of animals.

[king2005]

No it wasn't to you it was about King, I dont even know if thats her user name anymore.

Me?

Also who's Erica?

Just so I can understand whats going on lol

[My Peanuts]

No it wasn't to you it was about King, I dont even know if thats her user name anymore.

Letting him go on a pee pad isn't something I would consider letting him get away with, I mean like eating off your plate while you are eating and letting him. That kind of getting away with things.

Oh good! I know we've had our differences but I actually went through my posts from years ago looking for something that would warrant that. The last one I found, I was actually defending you. I was totally confused. Sorry about that.

So, about the puppy pad stuff, I would not intentionally train the other dogs to do that. To me, letting him pee on it, is getting away with stuff, but I see what you mean. Basically, I let him do his biting in the morning, because it's almost like it's not him in his body. He gets a blank stare almost like he doesn't know where he is. It wears off in no longer than 10 min. I ONLY do positive reinforcement with him because of his past, so there really isn't a way to correct it. If this was a bigger issue and he bit a lot, then I would have to yell or make loud noises to correct it.

Also, BC, I don't know you personally, but sometimes I think your advice is genuine, but maybe the way it's delivered is the problem. I can't tell you how many IM or text fights my husband and I get into because tone doesn't transfer through text. When we call each other or get home we laugh because we were actually agreeing!

[king2005]

Maybe I should have explained better then, not every dog has things that set them off. Dog with traumatic past, poor breeding etc are the ones who you dont know what could set them off, usually still you have some idea that your dog is like that. It's not your dog is happy and healthy half its life then bites because it saw someone dressed in black.
Also dogs who have no structure in their life (which is A LOT of dogs now a days) will bite to defend themselves because their owner is under them and they cant trust their owner.

Missed this post.. oops...

Totally agree... Thats mostly the kind of random bitting I'm talking about.. Bitting for no reason at all... Poor breeding (puppy mills are very much to blame for this, not 100% of course) really does mess up a dogs brain & the dog can be so unpredictable its both dangerous for themselves & anything else in their path.

Also agree with the lack of structure... Same goes for humans too...

Here is one of my Dad's fav stories to tell us (I've been hearing them non-stop for weeks now, as my sister is preg & he wants us to raise our kids properly... no I don't have any.. they will happen soon ).

My sister & I were well behaved kids 90% of the time as we had a solid structure created by our folks (mostly dad). Susan's kids were wild psycho kids & Susan screamed at them all the time & they never obeyed. My dad refused to visit & I hated it too as it was horrible!! Dad loved to babysite the 2 boys as they were very well behaved for him, as he gave them structure, so they knew how to behave & we all got a long great. The second Susan would walk into the house to pick them up, the yelling would start & the kids would be wild again. After that, dad always had them ready outside for them to get into her van so they could be wild in there & not in our house... This also happened with several other neighbours kids Dad babysat for.