Arizona immigration law

[Bonny]

I guess this country USA is going to have to roll with the punches & yes things aren't good here. The economy of New Mexico, has anyone looked at that? I know churches are pitching in & have set up workshops not sweat shops so the people in Mexico & other countries in Central America can make a living. Tourism is out right now because of the dangers to anyone going down their & being kidnapped& held for ransom. Tourism is a big catch all & brings money in for sure & Central America is a unique & beautiful part of the world. During the winter we get a lot of our fruits & veggies from Guatemala. I guess they can pass the Bill & hopefully they can get things to workout. There are always so many conflicts nothing is simple anymore.

[kokopup]

Before we started having the major influx of illegals we had thousands of seasonal legal workers that came to work the various crops that are harvested in Central Alabama. These workers were on work Visa's and you had the same groups returning year after year. They had special programs in the churches for the Children of the workers. I do not know what impact the illegal workers may have had on these groups that were coming yearly legally. If I had to guess I would say it probably had a negative impact, though it is Just my guess. A big part of this regions economy is tied to Peaches and Strawberries
and I know that the workers are still needed , I'm just not sure that the illegal
influx has not displaces the one's coming legally.

[wombat2u2004]

I guess this country USA is going to have to roll with the punches & yes things aren't good here. The economy of New Mexico, has anyone looked at that? I know churches are pitching in & have set up workshops not sweat shops so the people in Mexico & other countries in Central America can make a living. Tourism is out right now because of the dangers to anyone going down their & being kidnapped& held for ransom. Tourism is a big catch all & brings money in for sure & Central America is a unique & beautiful part of the world. During the winter we get a lot of our fruits & veggies from Guatemala. I guess they can pass the Bill & hopefully they can get things to workout. There are always so many conflicts nothing is simple anymore.

Well yeah !!! It's all give and take....right ??? You all give...and they all take.
I guess all the "happy smiling people" and the "tree huggers" on this thread may one day finally open their eyes when the problem directly affects their way of life.

[Bonny]

Wombat, I have a solution to the problem. All the lazy couch potato American kids that need exercise can get out there in the fresh air & pick the strawberries, peaches, apples, etc. They can even eat something good while they are working. I worked on my uncles truck farm for 5 summers picking strawberries & sweetcorn. I learned to work by God & am still a good worker to this day. We don't need immagrants we have a whole crop of kids that don't know what work is. Problem Solved!!! I'am now waiting for the happy smilling peoplem, tree huggers to attack me. Watch out I have my shovel & know how to use it.

[Pembroke_Corgi]

I think politicians love to get people riled up about all the "illegals" so they have scapegoats who have no rights or recourse. They're stealing jobs? That is completely ridiculous. It's more like these people are being exploited by others by working for next to nothing because that's the only option available to them.

I think the "Lurn to talk American" mind-set is just thinly veiled racism.

[Bonny]

thinly veiled racism must of been when my grandparents came from Europe & had learn to speak English too.

[wombat2u2004]

Racism ??? So far no-one has ever defined that word other than it being exclusively a word that we in the western world are accused of.

[RICHARD]

All of you have to leave the U.S. before May 15th.

Everyone that is not a indige.

I am going to throw down in 3,2,1.....


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I am sure many of your have sections of immigrants that live in your hometown.

Here in SFV there are tons of people who come into the hood and wreck it.

I am not talking about JUST 'MEXICANS'.

I have seen MANY go to pot, not with just Mexican immies, but a whole host of nationalities.


North Hollywood is a Armenian fave, the Filipinos favor Panorana City, there is a huge Thai population in the fringe of Lost Angeles and you have the rest.

NOT ALL ARE meatheaded people out to ruin a great chance to live in a pretty good area of the country, but...

In recent years you pick up and read about a crime/criminal ring that was busted here and you can tell WHO the people ar by the crime.

The little Filipino punks are into car theft and gangs.
They steal imports to part out and sell.

Armenians have found a lucrative business in fleecing Medicare.
And the Armos are notorious for being heavy handed when dealing with each other. A few weeks ago one an Armo shot and killed 4 people in a restaurant.

The Koreans have opened up liquor stores in black neighborhoods and charge outrageous prices for items.

The local store changed ownership and I recently paid 1.00 for a 6 ounce box of choco milk, so much for keeping the black man down?

At around 6 p.m. every day you see the Mexican woman waiting for the buses that run along Sunset Blvd. They are traveling home after working in the Malibu/Beverly Hills/West Hollywood areas for the rich folks that live in the hills....


At the risk of offending some of you?


STOP WORRYING ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS.

If you want to help out the poor people at risk of being deported for being here illegally? Let's get everyone here LEGALLY or begin to go thru the process of making them legal. THAT way we don't have to keep worrying about Juan Valdez sneaking his burro over the border, with good Columbian coffee.

Everyone has the RIGHT TO BE HUMAN and the responsibility to "Portarse Bien".

We have to get around the nudge, nudge, wink, wink attitude that we have toward people HERE ILLEGALLY.

Don't get me wrong.

I love my country and have had the spectacular privilege of seeing what is poverty just next door in Mexico.

Privilege?

Am I crazy?

Go find a 4-5 person family living in squalor, in a house made of cardboard and 2x4s.

Floor of mud, People peeing and crapping in a stream that serves as the bath, toilet and dump.

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I do know why people take the chance of drowning in an effing irrigation ditch or dehydrated and dying in the Southwest deserts after some AH takes their money with a promise of getting them to America with papers?

Here's a challenge?

Take a step over the line and put yourself in the shoes of those you have issue/compassion with.

Move into a one car garage for 6 months. Wash your clothes in a tub and hang them to dry on a makeshift clothesline, Go to the local agency and try to get beds for the kids because they sleep atop mats on concrete floors.

Here's a novel one?

Put an makeshift out house in the corner of the yard.

By 'allowing' people to live her illegally, we push them farther into the outskirts of what is decent and righteous for everyone.

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"Hey, I can stay here living like an animal and no one will bug me!"

There is enough compassion on the planet for everyone, I dole mine out compassionately.

I have to.

I get tired of seeing some of "my people" being allowed to live like animals, because they are not forced to abide by some simple rules.


I do appreciate the people that have taken up for them.

I also do appreciate the people who hold the opposing opinion.

Don't sell any race short, But, do not allow us to come up short by not making 'us' follow the rules.

I have the ability to straddle this topic and am able to lift up a leg and taunt either side.

If we cut people's vocal cords and peeled the skin off each other?

We'd have to deal with each other as bloody, mutes with no way to look down our noses at each other.

I like the idea, Maybe we'd be forced to look at caring for each other and really paying attention to what we mean, not what we say.



Rock on....

[caseysmom]

Well said Richard.

[wombat2u2004]

Wombat, I have a solution to the problem. All the lazy couch potato American kids that need exercise can get out there in the fresh air & pick the strawberries, peaches, apples, etc. They can even eat something good while they are working.

Too late mate. Congress has just passed the 896th Amendment stating
"No son or daughter or hermaphrodite shall be required to harvest fruit if it is reasonable to assume that their time is better spent at McDonalds"

[caseysmom]

Racism could be defined as believing one race of people are not human, as in referring to them as flies.

[wombat2u2004]

Racism could be defined as believing one race of people are not human, as in referring to them as flies.

How about locusts then ???

[Bonny]

Caseysmom, You just knocked my socks off & caused me to drop my shovel. I love your humor.

[caseysmom]

Caseysmom, You just knocked my socks off & caused me to drop my shovel. I love your humor.

You find racism to be funny?