Arizona immigration law

[kokopup]

Lady's Human

The 14th amendment to the Constitution give the power to enforce immigration law to the federal government, not the states.

If you want to impeach you congressional delegation for failing to uphold their oaths of office (refusing to enforce the law of the land in relation to immigration) then do so.

Passing a patently unconstitutional law to try to fix something doesn't make it right.

I do not have the insight of a Supreme Court but I do not see that AZ's law violates the 14th Amendment. The key words are "Citizen" and "Due Process of Law". The problems that are occurring all across the country isn't just having illegals working here, It is the Drug cartel causing mayhem. Many of the illegals are here for one reason, Drugs. I live near Birmingham and we are sitting right in the middle of their drug pipeline. We had 8 illegals killed Gangland style in a "Upscale" home because they had somehow crossed the Cartel. The Drug Cartel has brought war to the southeastern states. I see many more states taking the same action that AZ did. In this area "profiling' has turned up millions in Cartel drugs and money. The way I see it all is fair in the war against Drugs.

[Husky_mom]

so.. let´s say.. I go to the AZ.. I do not apply for "legalization".. work there somewhere... and I remain as illegal.. I do speak english.. I´m blonde.. green eyes.. and STILL ILLEGAL.. who´s gonna file against me just by my looks?.. do I look illegal?.. I´d say no by the ways they are treating this..

I think the law had a valid reason just poorly addressed... it may be a real hassle to get legal and work over there.. many employers surely underpay so it´s best for them to hire illegals... but can there be a solution to do things within law for both parties so it´s a win-win WITHIN law.. not around it..

I think if people want to work and have rights and benefits over there they
SHOULD do things properly.. but with so many obstacles it´s sometimes difficult.. and I´m not saying everything should be handed in silver plates..

Employers should be also punished by hiring illegals I think a bit more drastically..

and whatever the law is for NO-ONE should be categorized just by looks.. IMO that´s racist.. one can be the most decent hard working person and only because they are dirty or covered in soil or look like a mexican THAT should not be what stigmatizes them..

yes I´m aware there are TONS of immigrants... mexicans included.. as well as many hispanic and southamerican and european and asiatic places.. so Lady´s Human is right.. what does an illegal immigrant LOOK like?.. I´m not one to answer that..

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Maybe it they should make it easier to come to work here legally. Also, every person in the US, could tuck a copy of their birth certificate in their purse or wallet and all get checked every time they are even stopped for a speeding ticket. That would not be racial profiling at all.

We have 'emersion camp' offered for the grade school children here this summer. Not to teach English but to teach Spanish. Isn't that backwards?

[Karen]

We have 'immersion camp' offered for the grade school children here this summer. Not to teach English but to teach Spanish. Isn't that backwards?

Why not learn a second language? It is easier as a child than as an adult ... I think it would be fun, no matter the language choice!

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Why not learn a second language? It is easier as a child than as an adult ... I think it would be fun, no matter the language choice!

Fine but why not offer an 'emersion class' for English for those who need it? I'd think that would be more important. We are still an English speaking country mostly.

[Lady's Human]

Maybe it they should make it easier to come to work here legally. Also, every person in the US, could tuck a copy of their birth certificate in their purse or wallet and all get checked every time they are even stopped for a speeding ticket. That would not be racial profiling at all.

Ze Papers, please......


Yep, that'd work wonderfully. How about at the border control checkpoints between states?

Or maybe have an officer checking people as they came into town?

[momoffuzzyfaces]

Ze Papers, please......


Yep, that'd work wonderfully. How about at the border control checkpoints between states?

Or maybe have an officer checking people as they came into town?

They would only have to check them at times they would normally ask for your drivers license or ID, like being picked up for a dui, not flagging every car down or knocking on doors.

[Lady's Human]

They would only have to check them at times they would normally ask for your drivers license or ID, like being picked up for a dui, not flagging every car down or knocking on doors.

If your driver's license isn't sufficient, there's a problem already.

[Lady's Human]

Lady's Human


I do not have the insight of a Supreme Court but I do not see that AZ's law violates the 14th Amendment. The key words are "Citizen" and "Due Process of Law".

The key part of the amendment is the last clause:

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The Congress. No the states. The Congress.

As to the problems with illegals and drugs, Alabama and the rest of the south have no unique claim on that one. There are several pipelines, and some of them are in the north, too.