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    Were the justices smoking crack when they made this absolutely ridiculous decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosmom View Post
    Were the justices smoking crack when they made this absolutely ridiculous decision.
    No, they were striking down a law which treads on a little thing called the Bill of Rights. (And they didn't even have to create a right or interpret what the founders meant to come to the decision!)
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    I agree with LH. The ruling was that the law was "too broad". If censorship of any type is allowed, no matter how distasteful the message, it sets a dangerous precedent, IMO. This is why the KKK, al Qaeda, etc. websites are per se not taken down; however, they can be portals for law enforcement to go after those that do illegal deeds.
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    I too agree with LH and STE. Freedom means freedom, you can't pick and choose. Once you start that, there is no end to it.

    They are not saying that cruelty is now legal. They are saying that documenting it is legal. If it were not, no one could make a documentary about dogfighting or illegal whaling, for example. No one could film the TV shows everyone loves about cops and criminals. That is, after all, filming illegal acts, some of them no doubt cruel. Obviously, this also allows scumbags to profit from their or their friends and relatives dog fighting. But, it might also be the way the ring is identified and busted.

    The point is, you can't allow some freedom of speech and press and not all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisterdog View Post
    The point is, you can't allow some freedom of speech and press and not all.
    Not even for the public good ???


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    Is there some way this law could be written more tightly so that it would pass Constitutional muster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phesina View Post
    Is there some way this law could be written more tightly so that it would pass Constitutional muster?

    I am sure they are working on it already. They made films of child porn
    illegal, I'm sure they could narrow the scope of the law. The "free speech"
    argument did work when they tried to strike down the ban on child porn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    Not even for the public good ???
    By whos definition, though?

    Who defines "public good"?

    That's potentially scary territory. Japanese-Americans were taken from their homes in WWII and placed in camps ... for the public good. School children were segregated by the color of their skin ... for the public good.

    More specific language in this law would be wonderful, don't get me wrong, and I most sincerely hope it is reinstituted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisterdog View Post
    By whos definition, though?
    Who defines "public good"?

    That's potentially scary territory. Japanese-Americans were taken from their homes in WWII and placed in camps ... for the public good. School children were segregated by the color of their skin ... for the public good.
    More specific language in this law would be wonderful, don't get me wrong, and I most sincerely hope it is reinstituted.
    Who defines "public good ???
    Normal decent people do.
    Do we have to have a referendum to change a Constitutional law that was originally written some 200-300 years ago ??? I think not. I'm sure the framers of that Constitution or Bill of Rights that you refer to, never intended that your Freedom of Speech would include videos of animal cruelty.
    Your Constitution should be interpreted in accordance with the times we live in, as ours is here in Australia. I'm sure a lot of people in your country would support that.....after all...the rest of the world recognises that your Freedom of Speech has run amok, and no longer supports the ideals of normal decent people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisterdog View Post
    Japanese-Americans were taken from their homes in WWII and placed in camps ...
    That was wrong ????
    Methinks that was right !!!!


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