Sex abuse in church

[RICHARD]

Some people on here don't like each other.

We get it.

Lately? There's been someone that shows up who I CANNOT STAND.

I have to get a screwdriver, if I break the mirror, it's seven years bad luck.

[Lady's Human]

I thought you were referring to me for that tat pic.

[RICHARD]

I thought you were referring to me for that tat pic.

No, no, no.......It's the scary sucker lurking in my b-room mirror in the morning.




But, Now that you mention it?


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[RICHARD]

What I want to know is why people who kept theirs mouths shut about the abuse that happened AT THAT TIME were able to cash in on THEIR inability to say anything about the abuses.

Again, no one deserves abusive treatment at the hands of others, but, I just find the people who suddenly recover repressed memories when a Class Action Law Suit happens to catch their eye.

Even worse?

The ambulance chasers/advocates who promoted that kind of BS just to pad their pockets.

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Here in El Lay there was a child care center run by the McMartin family.

The were accused of sex abuse, animal sacrifice and all kinds of other scummy kiddie abuse. The kids testified that there was an underground toture
chamber under the school grounds and there was ritual animal slaughter going on.

Turns out that the kids were lying and telling stories to the psychologist, cops and the prosecutors just to get them off of their backs.

The defendants lost the school, their investment and lively hood over some accusations that started on of the most expensive and lengthy court cases in El Lay history.

Not to say that things didn't happed to the kids in Cat School-but I can barely remember stuff that happened a few weeks ago, let alone 10-30 years plus.

The way the RCC handed out the money in the settlements was kinda funny too. The people just had to file a complaint, talk to a few people and the check was in the mail.


I remember one slob that, when the settlement for the abused was handed out here in Lost ANGELES was in tears over getting a ton of money.

He was blubbering about being able too go on with his life now that the case was over.

I would have taken the money, rubbed it over my violated parts and burned it.


This is not to say that the abuse didn't happen, but how many of the victims would have changed a monetary settlement for some priests doing a little time in the pokey?

It all stinks to high heaven, the abusers who were shuffled around like U-Haul trailer, the people who spent life with that lump stuck in their chests and the Law, lawmakers and hot shot legal reps that made tons of money on other people's suffering.

God bless them all!

Do some penance and all is forgiven.

That said?

I view the whole escapade like I viewed my job.

"I like my work, it's the people in the office I hate."

I don't mind the religion, it's the people that make it look bad that I depise?

[Cataholic]

Lately? There's been someone that shows up who I CANNOT STAND.

I have to get a screwdriver, if I break the mirror, it's seven years bad luck.

I am SO in ageement with you! This "member" is so distasteful to many of us!! If only we ran the board.

[RICHARD]

I am SO in ageement with you! This "member" is so distasteful to many of us!! If only we ran the board.

So, you find me distasteful?

I would put myself near anyone's lips.

[Marigold2]

Richard if I may. Your question on why children who are abused do not speak up at the time. I can answer that easily. Fear, shame, gulit.
My cousins were sexually abused by their father. Since my one cousin is two months my senior her and I were very very close. I knew all about the abuse. We were between 12 and 14 when this was going on.
I wanted her to tell, she was terrified. My dad was a cop at the time. I never said a word. She knew my aunt her mother would not believe her and still worst she was afraid her mother would do nothing to stop it for fear of losing her home. I tried for years to have her tell, she told me over and over again if I did tell she would kill herself. That is a heavy burden and I could not risk that. So at 13 I did nothing.
The truth finally came out when her father was chasing her through the house and she climbed on the roof to get away from him and my younger aunt showed up and said "what the hell are you doing on the roof".
He was brought to court but my cousins were too terrified and ashamed to testify. Their lives were ruined be this.
Children are threathened by molesters to keep quite. Some promise to murder their parents if they tell or their younger brothers and sisters. They are told so many lies and the shame is so great. They truly have no where to turn often.
As for the priets I don't know what they would say to a child, perhaps they pick on the weak child, the one who has a disfunctional family life, perhaps one who doesn't get any love or attention at home.
I do know that many people hide what happens into adult hood because it is just to painful. We hear many come forward once they find the strength to voice their pain, Marie Osmond being one.
Rape victims do the same thing. So many are not reported. This is rape but of a child. Grown women are afraid to come forward, these poor children. My heart truly cries for them. I have seen the long term effect of abuse and it is a death of the soul.

[Marigold2]

As for the church, the church is made up of people who come together to pray, to learn and to grow and do good deeds.
The people are the church. Any bad apple needs to be weeded out for it hurts the good people of a clean heart and mind.
It can only do the church good to rid itself of this slime. No bad will come from doing the right thing. People are upset because the wrong thing was done over and over and the good people have lost trust.
The good people now need to speak up and say ENOUGH.

[RICHARD]

Richard if I may. Your question on why children who are abused do not speak up at the time. I can answer that easily. Fear, shame, gulit.
My cousins were sexually abused by their father. Since my one cousin is two months my senior her and I were very very close. I knew all about the abuse. We were between 12 and 14 when this was going on.
I wanted her to tell, she was terrified. My dad was a cop at the time. I never said a word. She knew my aunt her mother would not believe her and still worst she was afraid her mother would do nothing to stop it for fear of losing her home. I tried for years to have her tell, she told me over and over again if I did tell she would kill herself. That is a heavy burden and I could not risk that. So at 13 I did nothing.
The truth finally came out when her father was chasing her through the house and she climbed on the roof to get away from him and my younger aunt showed up and said "what the hell are you doing on the roof".
He was brought to court but my cousins were too terrified and ashamed to testify. Their lives were ruined be this.

The priests have 'god' on their sides.

I took a sex ed class and we touched on kid abuse. I have no children, but I dated a gal who was molested as a child and saw the "death" of parts of her soul.

People who abuse kids need to be exposed as soon as possible-but there are times that the system can work against the innocent.

One thing that is very sketchy about reinforcing the "If someone bad touches you in your special place" mantra is that we empower kids with the idea that they have a voice should they be abused, but, it can also be used as a 'weapon' against any adult they may have a difference with.

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My sis hit my niece in the arse with a shoe. Because my niece had never pushed my sis to the point of corporal punishment? My niece was devastated, confided with a friend that "MOM beat me with a shoe" and the school, cops and social services had to be called in to make sure that no kid was hurt in the writing of this post!!!

Embarrassing? Yeah, but at the cost of keeping a child safe? I have to say that erring on the side of caution is good, but, we have to take time to really look at what may have transpired in each case.

I know that the topic was the church and child abuse and apologize for taking it out-of-bounds. C.A. is a real problem and not JUST a church problem. It's a problem that need to be exposed for what it is, A crime against children.

But, we also have to empower-I really hate that term-our children to use that knowledge with common sense.

[Marigold2]

The priets have god on their side? What god allows sex abuse of a child to continue, be hidden and not stopped?
Bit confused here. Hard to tell if you are joking or not.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt because it is hard to tell when one is writing words. I cannot see you smile, frown, laugh or raise your eyebrows. And luckly you can't see me sitting here in my PJ's. LOL

[wombat2u2004]

The priets have god on their side? What god allows sex abuse of a child to continue, be hidden and not stopped?

God on their side ???? Surely God would not condone such crimes against children.
I think it would be more like....the church and the pope is on their side.

[RICHARD]

The priets have god on their side? What god allows sex abuse of a child to continue, be hidden and not stopped?
Bit confused here. Hard to tell if you are joking or not.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt because it is hard to tell when one is writing words. I cannot see you smile, frown, laugh or raise your eyebrows. And luckly you can't see me sitting here in my PJ's. LOL

My comment was meant to be sarcastic.

Remember that the RCC goes by the 'confess and your sins will be absolved'.

So, how many times would priests play life like a video game? Just hit the RESET button and carry on?

NO god would allow a child to be hurt that way.

None that I know of.

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WOM,

My cut-off is 30 years old. I can't even look at the Playboy centerfolds w/o feeling dirty.

[wombat2u2004]

So, you find me distasteful?

I would put myself near anyone's lips.

Careful mate. There's a member or two here that may well view it as child abuse if you get too close to their lips.