Sex abuse in church

[wombat2u2004]

Well golly gee !!!!
We are accused of taking a pop at the church ???
Now I've REALLY got my dander up !!!!

Bill and Blue....we should discuss this over tea and cucumber sandwiches.

[Marigold2]

Would be interesting to hear from some who have been abused. What punishment would they dole out and what would they suggest to keep futher gernerations safe from this abuse?

[wombat2u2004]

Would be interesting to hear from some who have been abused. What punishment would they dole out and what would they suggest to keep futher gernerations safe from this abuse?

Nawwwww....we can't do that.
We might be accused of attacking the church.

[Catty1]

The people who were abused as children might very well want to attack the church. Pedophiles in the church should not be immune to prosecution, as seems to have been the case - they are too well covered up.

[wombat2u2004]

The people who were abused as children might very well want to attack the church. Pedophiles in the church should not be immune to prosecution, as seems to have been the case - they are too well covered up.

That's the real point here isn't it ??? It's not about attacking anyones church.
It's about bringing to justice those who are free to commit the same crimes again and again against our children.
We can discuss this further in the "Tea and Cookies on top of the Pennines" forum on Facebook if you wish (a children free forum).

[Miss Z]

Would be interesting to hear from some who have been abused. What punishment would they dole out and what would they suggest to keep futher gernerations safe from this abuse?

This would indeed be an interesting perspective. From news reports, the parents of the abused Irish children certainly have a thing or two in mind. I reckon, however, that it couldn’t be coaxed from the mouths of the victims on moral grounds by police, or media, or whoever else wants to know. Too much dredging up of awful memories. I can’t fathom what that would be like.

[pomtzu]

I was really rather enjoying PT these past few months, without all the accusations, name calling, insults, and other generally rude behavior that goes along as part of the package. I knew it was too good to last!!!

If the shoe fits...........

[Lady's Human]

If the topic can't be discussed without personal comments, then perhaps it shouldn't be discussed here. Personal disputes have no place here, Dog House or otherwise.

The Catholic Church in the US has lost much of its legal shield, perhaps it is time for other countries to follow suit. John J. Geoghan certainly destroyed any shred of secrecy for the Boston archdiocese.

[Karen]

Let's keep it civil, this is still Pet Talk.

From the formerly abused children I have known all many want is it to never happen to another child again, and for the crime to be treated as a crime.

[wombat2u2004]

I was really rather enjoying PT these past few months, without all the accusations, name calling, insults, and other generally rude behavior that goes along as part of the package. I knew it was too good to last!!!

If the shoe fits...........

And indeed the shoe DOES fit.
Do what I do mate, shove em on ignore, and then you don't have to read the junk mail.

[pomtzu]

Do what I do mate, shove em on ignore, and then you don't have to read the junk mail.

LOL
Maybe I'll do that - right after I sweep up some crumbs.

[Miss Z]

Well golly gee !!!!
We are accused of taking a pop at the church ???
Now I've REALLY got my dander up !!!!

Bill and Blue....we should discuss this over tea and cucumber sandwiches.

Heh, well it really is all about you, isn’t it, John?

Marigold, apologies. I'm not being a particularly good friend here! Promise I’ll smirk to myself only at the beastie after this post.

Haha, you have a go at the Catholic Church all you want, my friend, for you see it singles you out for the person you are - racist, homophobic, a little sexist, and when it comes down to the boil, against anything or anyone who might call you on something.

You made a habit of picking on a young girl the first time around you were here.

You were nasty for the mere reason that she disagreed with you a few times.

You are unlike any others on the forum here, who at least have the decency to drop or at least quieten their discrepancies with each other over time. Well, try it on with me all you like, matie, I frankly do not give a toss.

I had the mis/fortune of stumbling across a few Youtube comments you made some time after your PT departure, and evidently you can’t contain your exuberance to irk people there either. Tsk tsk, you should choose a less unique username, says I.

And I have no doubt that I will be flamed for this, or that this post will be deleted, and that few will choose to publicly back me. I’ll take a defeat, or a slap, should it come, so long as others know I‘m prepared to stand in the firing line. At least I don’t depend on the ignore button to shut out the words I don’t want to hear.

And, silly man, were you not so self-righteous in that respect, you would have seen me agreeing with you in some threads, against people whom I sure as hell prefer and respect over you. I’m able to move on. Ask Blue, the pair of us have had quite the gripes! Can’t say I blame him if he’s not all that fond of me. But in this thread, he’s right, IMO, and I support his words. It’s called being respectful.

The comment I made was not particularly about your posts, since if they seem to contain too many consecutive exclamation marks and other various punctuation symbols, I don’t often read them. It was directed at the people I know can ‘hear’ me in this thread, why on earth should I address it to you?

You and I - chalk and cheese. You say I’m evil and angry, I say you’re pathetic and laughable. We ain’t never gonna be happy until one of us has gone. And I hold out that, if it’s not me that this time sends you storming off, it’ll be someone else. And if I have to be got shut of before that happens, well, that’ll be a shame for me, since I care a lot about many people here. I’ll only have my snappiness and sense of justice to blame for that, but my gawd do I hold it dear. I won’t be changing that anytime soon.

I would be grateful if someone not on the naughty list could quote me so that I can correspond with this gentleman. It is all I wish to say to him.

I’ll expect the arrival of the cavalry, that’s cool. My gripes are not with you.

[Cataholic]

Heh, well it really is all about you, isn’t it, John?

Marigold, apologies. I'm not being a particularly good friend here! Promise I’ll smirk to myself only at the beastie after this post.

Haha, you have a go at the Catholic Church all you want, my friend, for you see it singles you out for the person you are - racist, homophobic, a little sexist, and when it comes down to the boil, against anything or anyone who might call you on something.

You made a habit of picking on a young girl the first time around you were here.

You were nasty for the mere reason that she disagreed with you a few times.

You are unlike any others on the forum here, who at least have the decency to drop or at least quieten their discrepancies with each other over time. Well, try it on with me all you like, matie, I frankly do not give a toss.

I had the mis/fortune of stumbling across a few Youtube comments you made some time after your PT departure, and evidently you can’t contain your exuberance to irk people there either. Tsk tsk, you should choose a less unique username, says I.

And I have no doubt that I will be flamed for this, or that this post will be deleted, and that few will choose to publicly back me. I’ll take a defeat, or a slap, should it come, so long as others know I‘m prepared to stand in the firing line. At least I don’t depend on the ignore button to shut out the words I don’t want to hear.

And, silly man, were you not so self-righteous in that respect, you would have seen me agreeing with you in some threads, against people whom I sure as hell prefer and respect over you. I’m able to move on. Ask Blue, the pair of us have had quite the gripes! Can’t say I blame him if he’s not all that fond of me. But in this thread, he’s right, IMO, and I support his words. It’s called being respectful.

The comment I made was not particularly about your posts, since if they seem to contain too many consecutive exclamation marks and other various punctuation symbols, I don’t often read them. It was directed at the people I know can ‘hear’ me in this thread, why on earth should I address it to you?

You and I - chalk and cheese. You say I’m evil and angry, I say you’re pathetic and laughable. We ain’t never gonna be happy until one of us has gone. And I hold out that, if it’s not me that this time sends you storming off, it’ll be someone else. And if I have to be got shut of before that happens, well, that’ll be a shame for me, since I care a lot about many people here. I’ll only have my snappiness and sense of justice to blame for that, but my gawd do I hold it dear. I won’t be changing that anytime soon.

I would be grateful if someone not on the naughty list could quote me so that I can correspond with this gentleman. It is all I wish to say to him.

I’ll expect the arrival of the cavalry, that’s cool. My gripes are not with you.

While I would never say from the mouth of babes...there sure is something here! You go, girl!

[Alysser]

While I would never say from the mouth of babes...there sure is something here! You go, girl!

I love this post Zara, beautiful!

[Lady's Human]

As posted by the mayor, keep it civil, and there is absolutely no need for anyone to egg this mess on from the sidelines.

Some people on here don't like each other.

We get it.

Take it to PM's and figure out how to co-exist without the personal BS in the forums.