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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    This idea is a reality now. From the article Grace posted. We should
    probably keep the whales in coastal Sanctuaries described here. A much
    better enviroment for them.


    "Tilikum has spent more than a quarter of a century swimming in circles, in a space that critics say would be equivalent to keeping a human being in a bathtub. Would you get resentful, angry, maybe even a little rageful and psychotic if you were kept in a bathtub-sized tank forced to swim in circles for more than 25 years?

    The time has come to free Tilikum. Brazil and Chile are just two countries that have created huge coastal sanctuaries, some running thousands of miles, where whales like Tilikum can return to an active life, one in which they can frolic and explore. This is how nature intended these creatures to live. "
    Yes - I understand that there are coastal sanctuaries, and that is all well and good. However what I was referring to, is the confinement of the animals in a park setting, where people come to see them perform. There is no safe and humane way to do this, and unfortunately, these animals will probably continue to be exploited for the almighty dollar that they bring in to these parks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    Yes - I understand that there are coastal sanctuaries, and that is all well and good. However what I was referring to, is the confinement of the animals in a park setting, where people come to see them perform. There is no safe and humane way to do this, and unfortunately, these animals will probably continue to be exploited for the almighty dollar that they bring in to these parks.


    You are absolutely right.


    ps. A similar case could be made for the elephants in zoos. A horrible situation for these animals.
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    Has anyone actually seen the video of this poor woman being killed? It sounds like some of you have, but I can't find the video of it anywhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalei View Post
    Has anyone actually seen the video of this poor woman being killed? It sounds like some of you have, but I can't find the video of it anywhere.
    I don't believe there is one. Even if there is, you can probably be certain that it will never be made public.

    I, for one, wouldn't care to view it.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    I don't believe there is one. Even if there is, you can probably be certain that it will never be made public.

    I, for one, wouldn't care to view it.........
    Yeah, you are probably right. I just wanted to know what the truth was, if he was just playing or if he actually attacked her aggressively, cause there seems to be two rumors going on.


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    Even with 'protected areas/viewing areas'?

    Here in So Cal you can do this

    http://www.newportwhales.com/

    Interesting? But how many rules are borken an other animals impacted by people running boats across migration lanes?

    There is a 'buffer zone/rules' that forbid contact or ships with a certain number of feet, but how can you impress that upon a whale, dolphin or sea lion.

    Then you have the sea lions here in So Cal.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2006/jun...l/me-sealions6

    We protect them and they literally poop on us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    You are absolutely right.


    ps. A similar case could be made for the elephants in zoos. A horrible situation for these animals.
    Yes I was thinking of the elephants too. Even tho the zoo setting is far from ideal, and they would do better to be homed in a preserve, it still beats the circus elephant's life. IMO - it should be illegal to have elephant circus acts. Those great creatures are some of the most abused animals today - and at the hands of their trainers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    Yes - I understand that there are coastal sanctuaries, and that is all well and good. However what I was referring to, is the confinement of the animals in a park setting, where people come to see them perform. There is no safe and humane way to do this, and unfortunately, these animals will probably continue to be exploited for the almighty dollar that they bring in to these parks.

    I have to agree that the confining animals or sea mammals is absolutely wrong. Even unjured they should be left where they are and let nature take it's course. How many times do we see aquariums with fish and admire them, but in reality many people have no clue as what species can be kept with other species, they have no knowledge of the room these fish need and sometimes overstock the tanks, then there's the pumps and oxygen to consider, cleaning, just so many other things to get educated about. I love to watch fish in aquariums but could never devote the time and attention needed to keep them healthy and alive.
    I'm hoping the whale will be turned over to a sanctuary and not just dumped back into the ocean to a certain death. I couldn't watch the whole video, not something you want to see.
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    This morning, I heard the Sea World people have the film of the attack. They said they are givng it to investigators to help with the case.

    There are some amateur films out there but I'm not sure if they are of the actual attack.


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