I am sooo mad right now...GOOD update #28

**pomtzu** · 12-10-2009, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by aTailOf2Kitties

good grief, dogs have been living outdoors for centuries. You think the first tamed wolf came right in thru the doggie door and plopped himself in front of the fireplace? I've had dogs before. They lived outside and were perfectly content to do so (although I brought them in at feeding time). I know tons of people who still own dogs. Those dogs live outside too... and it gets chilly here (was 20 this morning). Bottom line, just because a dog lives outside doesn't mean it's gonna die. People don't keep their packs of hunting beagles in the house. As long as the dogs have a warm place to curl up and get out of the weather, they should be fine....especially if they're grown and have lived outside all their lives.

And Cindy said all they have is a bed and 2 blankets. That's adequate shelter from the weather???

It appears that these dogs do not have a warm place to curl up and get out of the weather. She wouldn't have been looking to find a dog house for them if they did!!!

**Medusa** · 12-10-2009, 05:42 PM

A bed isn't a shelter to protect those dogs from the elements; it's a place to sleep. Some people just have no common sense. Do what you can to help, Cindy, b/c it appears that these people just don't get it.

**Taz_Zoee** · 12-10-2009, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Medusa

A bed isn't a shelter to protect those dogs from the elements; it's a place to sleep. Some people just have no common sense. Do what you can to help, Cindy, b/c it appears that these people just don't get it.

Oh I am.

**phesina** · 12-10-2009, 06:33 PM

God bless you, Cindy, for caring about these dogs more than their owners seem to. Thank you.

**Genny** · 12-10-2009, 09:39 PM

I think that's nice of you to try and get those dogs a dog house where they'll have something to keep them warm

It is sad that the dogs are kept outside-since they're small-I kinda think smaller dogs should be kept in-they are just so small and seem way more delicate-but I'm not against keeping dogs outside all the time. We have 4 big dogs a great pyrenees, a german shepherd and 2 lab mixes. They have to live outside cause we just couldn't keep them inside. Maybe if we had only 1 big dog then it could stay in, but we don't..so... We do have 4 small dogs tho and they all stay inside the house. We let them out everyday and they'll run around for 20 minutes or so and then come back to the door and we'll let them in. You know I'm not sure if this is the case w/ your friend or not but sometimes people can't keep their dogs inside-maybe someone's alergic to them? I dunno....I haven't read all the other post before this one, but I do hope everything works out for them and the dogs get taken care of better

**Taz_Zoee** · 12-10-2009, 10:53 PM

aTailOf2Kitties - I'm not saying dogs can't live outside. I'm saying these small dogs should not be outside when the temps have been below freezing. We had snow this past Monday!! These are California dogs, they aren't used to these temps. One of the dogs is a senior, I believe he's around 10 or 12 years old by now.
I'm pretty sure she takes them to the vet. At least she told me today she did. But I do know they do not have adequate shelter for this weather. That is why I provided a box and will keep bugging her about getting them a "real" doghouse.

Genny - nobody in the house is allergic to them. The husband is an a$$ and won't allow them in the house or the garage.

**aTailOf2Kitties** · 12-11-2009, 08:12 AM

if she can't afford proper doghouses, she should at least get some plastic totes with a doorway cut out of them. Those are cheap, easy to come by, and washable.

**phesina** · 12-11-2009, 11:59 AM

Oh the Channel 4 news last evening there was a feature on Michigan Humane Society cruelty investigators going out and picking up dogs and cats that had been left outside in the brutal cold here and had become seriously injured or even frozen to death.

They said that if a pet must live outside in this weather, it needs an enclosed shelter such as a dog house, with straw in it for warm bedding and insulation because towels or blankets can easily become wet and then freeze, leaving the animal with a bed of ice to lay down on.

**Taz_Zoee** · 12-11-2009, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by aTailOf2Kitties

if she can't afford proper doghouses, she should at least get some plastic totes with a doorway cut out of them. Those are cheap, easy to come by, and washable.

Good idea! I'll suggest this to her.

Originally Posted by phesina

Oh the Channel 4 news last evening there was a feature on Michigan Humane Society cruelty investigators going out and picking up dogs and cats that had been left outside in the brutal cold here and had become seriously injured or even frozen to death.

They said that if a pet must live outside in this weather, it needs an enclosed shelter such as a dog house, with straw in it for warm bedding and insulation because towels or blankets can easily become wet and then freeze, leaving the animal with a bed of ice to lay down on.

I will also tell her about the straw. Thanks for the ideas everyone!