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    What I meant was - to argue whether it is a natural event, or caused by humans, the actions to slow and even reverse it would be the same, no?

    I tend to think that it may well be a natural event, but made far more severe by the crap that has been poured into the environment since the advent of the Industrial Revolution in the mid-1800's.

    Let's remove all the human factors possible and see if that helps. How can it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post

    I tend to think that it may well be a natural event, but made far more severe by the crap that has been poured into the environment since the advent of the Industrial Revolution in the mid-1800's.

    Let's remove all the human factors possible and see if that helps. How can it not?
    Remove the human factors??? - impossible - unless you remove humans!

    At best, they might be modified. This would have to be a worldwide cooperative effort, and just one industrial nation and it's people, is not going to make a difference. All - or nothing at all. And which way do you think it would go???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    What I meant was - to argue whether it is a natural event, or caused by humans, the actions to slow and even reverse it would be the same, no?
    No, the actions to slow or reverse would not be the same. If it is naturally occurring how could you slow or reverse it?

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    Steve Mc Queen would have been a wonderful spokesman for the Global Warning Movement..........


    Watch the last five minutes of "The Blob".

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    If it IS natural, we could keep working towards cutting CO2 emissions and everything else we are doing. I can't help but think it will have some effect, natural causes or not.

    To clarify further, merely arguing about the chicken or egg cause takes energy we could be putting towards cleaning up after ourselves, commercially, internationally, and personally.
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    Global "warming". Follow the money. How much is Al Gore worth now?


    The science I have read, from various sources is far from conclusive. Seems to be that that enourmous ball of fire in the sky has something to do with it. Something that contemporary science cares little about.

    I care about the environment MORE than the average person. Call me on it. The "answers" proposed... "Cap and Trade...." Discuss?


    Cap and Trade. Ready to live in the 18th century? I am. How about you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi View Post
    Why do people like to pick and choose when to "believe" in scientific evidence?
    Ask Al Gore and every scientist with their hands out for Globull Warming grant money.

    Quote Originally Posted by kokopup View Post
    It is true that there is evidence that a tropical rain forest existed on the east shore of the gulf of Alaska. That was 40-50 million years ago. It took millions of years to go from that tropical age to the cold climate of just 50 years ago. The problem is we are seeing warming in just a few decades not thousands of millions of years as would be the norm. The change we are seeing today is very rapid and accelerating at an alarming rate. Warming is real and worsening much to fast. It will take a Global change in how we use our resources or we will pay the consequences in our lifetime.
    It didnt take millions of years to go from the Medieval Warm Period to the Little Ice Age, or the 1940s warming to the cooling in the 1970s. Neither of us is going through million years of tempurature records without being paid to do so for the sake of an intardnet discussion. The world has been cutting its emissions for 3 decades and climate change is still rapidly accelerating. The problem is we started cutting our emissions to stave off another cooling period and caused a warming period?

    The Globull Warming Scare tactic is already killing people in developing nations.

    So more mining is now the answer on using our resources to help stop climate change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Global "warming". Follow the money. How much is Al Gore worth now?
    Al Gore the limo riding private jet flying Climate Commando!

    The science I have read, from various sources is far from conclusive. Seems to be that that enourmous ball of fire in the sky has something to do with it. Something that contemporary science cares little about.
    There is no grant money for solar activity studies when it come to Globull Warming.

    I care about the environment MORE than the average person. Call me on it. The "answers" proposed... "Cap and Trade...." Discuss?


    Cap and Trade. Ready to live in the 18th century? I am. How about you?
    Not ready to live like its 1799, and I doubt neither are the Globull Warming alarmists.
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    I am glad that everyone has the benefit of listening finally to what is really going on: the earth is in fact overall cooling down. Warming and cooling cycles have existed since the earth was formed some 5.5 billion years ago, but at one time the temperature on the surface of the earth was thousands of degrees F! We are probably in a localized "warming" period that may or not be affected by humans, but on the scale of billions of years the earth will in fact one day become unihabitable, not because of excessive heat, but due to excessive cold! The earth's surface heat, generated by its enormously hot, molten core, is being radiated into outer space. Due to solar activity, and the complex and convoluted nature of earth's continents, et al, earth experiences climate cycles. But the reality is that on the largest scale possible, the earth is cooling down and will one day become a solid block of frozen rock -- if not consumed by an expanding sun, which will in most likelihood become a red giant star. Whether or not that happens, it cannot be denied that given enough time the earth will cool down overall.

    There is plenty of credible, scientific information available on the web (I am talking about abstracts and reports written by Harvard, MIT, Cal Tech, et al, scientists -- not "wannabe" scientists) to support what I have posted.

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