Government run health care

[blue]

Since somebody decided to drop a glove..

Insurance in this country, should be written for the individual, after all we arent on a caste system.

If everybody is mandated to have insurance, mandating the same insurance for men and women is financially irresponsible on a .gov level.

Family coverage would not exist under Obamacare, every citizen would have their own coverage. Family coverage and discounts wouldnt logicaly exist.

Why would you buy insurance that you cannot use? Thats about the dumbest thing Ive heard of.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Insurance has been around since before Christ. One of those most involved in it's introduction in the US was Benjamin Franklin. It was not invented by Barak Obama or communist or marxist.

The concept of insurance is pooled risk. A group of people put money into a pot (very simplified) and it is used to cover the losses of any of those participating. Insurance companies have evolved as the ones who collect the money and decide whose losses should be paid. The amount people put into the pool - premiums - is based on the risk they represent.

Insurance policies define what is a covered loss. I can accept that coverage or choose something else that more closer meets what I want to cover. This is true with auto, homeowner, rental, life or any other type of insurance. But there is not "gender" insurance.

Even if a company thought it a good idea there are laws - Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Civil Rights Act of 1991 that preclude discrimination based on gender - specifically including pregnancy.

Jon Kyl - Republican Senator from Arizona - stated "I don't need maternity care, so requiring that it be in my insurance plan will make my policy more expensive."

While discussing the healthcare reform bill.

Either Senator Kyl does not understand insurance, does not know the law of this country or does not think care for pregnant women is important.

Or - all three.

[RICHARD]

I don't know what I am talking anyway.



BO is the next health care scare in the country.

Imagine all the people who will show up at the doc's with Rear End problems.

All the smoke being blown up people's rears ain't gonna hurt them?

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LOLOLOLOL,

I looked out my "back door" expecting to see Russia and all I saw is Smoke.....and I do not mean Tony Stewart.....:eek::confused::rolleyes:

[Edwina's Secretary]

I don't know what I am talking anyway.



BO is the next health care scare in the country.

It is good to know Senator Kyl has company....

[blue]

All the smoke being blown up people's rears ain't gonna hurt them?

Docs actualy used to blow smoke up peoples rears. Now our .gov is trying to do the same.

ETA: RICHARD, you "Deserve" maternity leave, and coverage for in vitro fertilization. What else do men need to have insurance for?

Let men carry abortion insurance, men cant get pregnant after all.

[Marigold2]

Lets wait and see. Eight years ago this country was in much better shape before Bush took office. Lets wait till BO's first term is over and ask ourselves are we better or worst off then before. Change takes time, and it is hard work. We cannot all agree on what is best for the US nor can the people in charge. I don't have a degree in economics, law, science, government so I have to vote for those that do and hope that they do more good then harm. After all many of these people we voted into office with our good sense and intelligence, so who is really to blame if things go bad?

[RICHARD]

Docs actualy used to blow smoke up peoples rears. Now our .gov is trying to do the same.

ETA: RICHARD, you "Deserve" maternity leave, and coverage for in vitro fertilization. What else do men need to have insurance for?

Let men carry abortion insurance, men cant get pregnant after all.

I think that ML for men is kooky.

Give them a week and after that, make them take vacation.

Of course, they can be given more ML if the child is ill or needs care because of illness, otherwise get back to work.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Men do not get maternity leave. They get paternity leave under the Family Medical Leave Act. Except in California it is unpaid.

But more to the point, maternity leave, paternity leave have nothing to do with health care or the bills being debated.

I thought you an expert on healthcare?

As for you attitude - typical of someone who has never had children. I notice you don't include if the mother needs additional care.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Give them a week and after that, make them take vacation.

P.S. Employers can and do (even in California) require an employee taking leave - maternity, paternity, or for any other reason, to use up accrued paid time off - vacation, PTO, ETO during the leave.

You can read all the details on the mandatory poster in your place of employment.

[Marigold2]

Men recieving paternity leave is just plan silly. Having a baby is a choice, it is not a disease that is thrown upon one such as cancer. One can choose to save money for three or six months to stay home with the baby. Employers should not have to pay for the man staying home. If a women wants a baby she too should plan ahead and save up vacation time and money so she can add onto her maternity leave. Small employers cannot afford to stay in business otherwise.