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    philly sports writer...

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    By John Gonzalez

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    A text came in. Then another. Then the whispers started in the press box. Then the phone started ringing. This all happened within seconds.

    It was about 8:45 last night when the focus shifted and everything changed. People stopped talking about how good Shady McCoy looked in the Eagles' preseason opener against the Patriots and started talking about the big news.

    Did you hear? The Birds signed Michael Vick.

    I didn't believe it at first. I didn't believe it until Vick's agent, Joel Segal, confirmed the rumor to ESPN.com. A news conference is scheduled for today.

    The fans at Lincoln Financial Field didn't seem to believe it either. One guy seated right in front of the press box stood up, knocked on the glass and mouthed the question to me that everyone was asking: "Is it true?" When I nodded yes, he didn't seem so thrilled. The poor guy put his hands on his bald head and shook it. He did that for a long while. His reaction probably wasn't unique.

    It was barely two years ago that the former Atlanta signal-caller traded his Falcons uniform for government-issue prison garb after being convicted of conspiracy and running a dogfighting operation. Vick was sentenced to 23 months in the federal pen and suspended indefinitely by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. The commish has since softened his stance, allowing Vick to look for work and stating that he could be eligible for full reinstatement by Week 6 at the latest.

    And so now Ron Mexico is an Eagle. To say it's a shocking development is a gross understatement. If anyone in town expected this or knew it was happening, they did a good job keeping it a secret. Vick reportedly flew into town Tuesday night and remained undetected until late last evening. That's a hard thing to pull off. If his football comeback falls through, he has a terrific career ahead of him as a spy.

    Covert operations aside, the Eagles will take a PR hit on this, and it won't be a small one. PETA and pet owners everywhere will crucify Vick and the Birds for climbing into bed together. Radio hosts will jabber about it incessantly and question what the hell the Eagles were thinking. Columnists and bloggers will write countless words - many of which will be angry and judgmental.

    If you've already dug in and joined the anti-Vick camp, I won't blame you or try to change your mind. People love dogs. I'm one of them. I'm a sucker for just about any animal, but the ones that roll over and play fetch and slobber all over me - even when I'm not at my best (which is most of the time) - are by far my favorite. What Vick did to those dogs was cruel and terrible and indefensible.

    But I'm not going to kill the Eagles for signing him, and I'm not going to attack Vick or ascribe some pejorative label to the guy. I don't know the man. I don't know why he got involved with dogfighting. But I do know that he went to prison, and he lost his job, and he's been beaten up quite a bit over the last two years. He's been beaten up almost endlessly. And for good reason. Don't get it twisted, he deserved his punishment - all of it. But after doing his time and losing almost everything he'd worked so hard to achieve, hasn't he paid the price required of someone looking to purchase a second chance?
    This Sunday, CBS will air an interview with Vick on 60 Minutes. The full transcript isn't available yet, but I went over the little bit that has been released. I searched for answers to the same questions we all have: Is he contrite? Does he realize how badly he messed up? Is he willing to take responsibility for his actions and admit his mistakes? Is he capable of changing for the better after all this?

    "It's wrong, man," Vick says on 60 Minutes. "I feel, you know, some tremendous hurt behind what happened. And, you know, I should have took the initiative to stop it all. I didn't - I didn't stop it all."

    No, he didn't. And he'll be forever shamed for that lack of judgment. He'll never be able to fully shake the stigma of what he did. He'll always be Michael Vick - the guy who fought dogs and killed them.

    That's a horrible burden to shoulder. He brought it on himself, of course, but I still wouldn't wish that fate on anyone.

    But, ultimately, whether people forgive Vick will have more to do with what happens in the future than what happened in the past. He needs to prove he's truly, deeply sorry for what he did - and not simply because it irreparably damaged his once-promising career.

    "I mean, football doesn't even matter," Vick told 60 Minutes.

    That's a start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joycenalex View Post
    "I mean, football doesn't even matter," Vick told 60 Minutes.

    That's a start.
    BS! If football doesn't matter, then why even play? Oh yeah. You'll get paid millions. He doesn't give a rats ass about what he did to those poor dogs. He's just sorry he got caught and now is laughing at everyone behind their backs all the way to the bank.

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    I really dont see this as a second chance, as I dont think he was sufficiently punished.

    Only reason Ill watch an Eagles game now is hoping he gets drilled by the opposing team. On second thought Ill wait for the footage of him getting reemed on the field on Youtube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramanth View Post
    BS! If football doesn't matter, then why even play? Oh yeah. You'll get paid millions. He doesn't give a rats ass about what he did to those poor dogs. He's just sorry he got caught and now is laughing at everyone behind their backs all the way to the bank.



    I agree. I think Vick is sorry he got caught, but that's about it.

    Those poor dogs are just as dead. Their suffering & pain was just as real.
    I wish the dogs could be given another chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramanth View Post
    BS! If football doesn't matter, then why even play? Oh yeah. You'll get paid millions. He doesn't give a rats ass about what he did to those poor dogs. He's just sorry he got caught and now is laughing at everyone behind their backs all the way to the bank.

    I am also in total agreement with this. Well said!!!

    In watching this guy on tv, I can already see that familiar smirk on his face. Grrrrrrrrrrr.........


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    Eagle fans are tough

    Having lived in Philadelphia for years, I can guarantee you the fans will be relentless with their jeering. I don't think other football players will go after him. I could be wrong, but I think many of them have lots of things to hide - gambling, womanizing, nasty accidents, drugs etc. and they know how high profile their lives are already. BUT the fans, well, the Eagle fans are rabid sometimes. That's not to say other teams' fans are angels.

    I have mixed emotions about punishing him beyond his already served sentence. I have always thought ALL sports players were paid WAY too much money for what they do, but that's for another post.

    It will be interesting to see his 60 minutes interview. From what I have seen so far, I am not impressed.

    How would you feel if he donated half his salary to Pit Bull rescues? Not that we would ever know for sure he would do it. Is there any way for him to be let off the hook? I think not, for many of us. He would do better by fading into the sunset and getting a job out of the limelight.

    We shall see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasvermont View Post
    How would you feel if he donaed half his salary to Pit Bull rescues? Not that we would ever know for sure he would do it. Is there any way for him to be let off the hook? I think not, for many of us. He would do better by fading into the sunset and getting a job out of the limelight.
    If he would do that PLUS clean dog cages for the next 15 or 20 years, maybe I'd think he's repentant. I still say he's only sorry for being caught and not for what he did. His smirk, body language and what he actually says tells me he's unrepentant. "I should've done this" and "I should've done that" rather than "I'm sorry" doesn't cut it.
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    I am not a fan of football, or sports, in general. I have never watched a full football game, and don't see myself doing so in the near future. So, I do not know what other NFl or other sport league players have or have not been a part of criminally. But, in general, I draw a huge distinction between the idiot that gets behind the wheel of his/her car lit up like a Christmas tree and accidently kills another person and a person like Vick that knowingly, with malice in his heart, time and again, did what he did to dogs. This isn't about the value of a human life over a pets life (that isn't my call to make). It is about the intent of the person. It isn't to say that the drunk driver didn't commit a horrendous, life altering crime. He did. But, to me, there is a big difference in the intent of the person committing many many other crimes and what Vick did.

    I would never allow a person convicted of a sex act upon a minor within 1 foot alone with my son, no matter HOW much time that person served. Again, it is the intent of that perpetrator...I see Vick similarly. I think he deserves nothing but contempt from this day forward.

    I hope the fans revolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataholic View Post

    Again, it is the intent of that perpetrator...I see Vick similarly.

    I think he deserves nothing but contempt from this day forward.

    I hope the fans revolt.
    Well said!

    Did you watch the "60 Minutes" interview with Mikey tonight?

    NOT a very good showing of his "I'm sorry" attitude...
    more like a restatement of:
    * I'm sorry I got caught
    * I'm sorry I lost a lot of money
    * I'm sorry I screwed up my career
    * Oh, yeah ... and I'm sorry I hurt those "animals"

    Those were DOGS you hurt (and killed) ... try saying "DOGS", you dirt bag!



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