yeah but you could probably haggle 1500 off the price of a new car anyway. Besides if you trade in, you will probably still owe more on the new car than you currently owe on the van. Of course it all depends somewhat on what you are trading in and what you are looking to get. And just how badly you want to thin out the driveway, LOL.

I don't remember all of the points my father in law was making but they made sense at the time. We were just shootin the breeze, so don't take what I've said as gospel. I could be incorrect on a few things since I'm not parting with either of my cars any time soon, therefore didn't need to understand all of it.

BTW, my 07 Cobalt automatic gets about 32mpg now that it's broken in properly. Decent car honestly. I wanted an Aveo until I browsed some internet forums where current owners were not exactly reccommending them. Granted that was a couple years ago....