Healthcare costs

**rosethecopycat** · 06-16-2009, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

Dead pan or Bed pan humor?

I almost spit up my evening cocktail all over my WHITE t-shirt.

Your name is Mr. Buttle, correct?

**rosethecopycat** · 06-16-2009, 08:41 AM

I'd still rather go with strong Tort reform and less government control.

**RICHARD** · 06-16-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by rosethecopycat

Your name is Mr. Buttle, correct?

Well, kinda..

The end that don't face people is..

**Puckstop31** · 06-16-2009, 10:40 AM

Here's the thing.... I understand all the arguements for a single payer system. I know our system is broken and needs to get better.

But here are some questions.

1.) Where does the Constitution allow for Federal Government to take over/mandate health care?

2.) Do we REALLY trust the Federal Government to "fix" something as massive as the US Healthcare system? I remind you all that it is 1/5th of the ENTIRE economy.

3.) Most importantly... Do you really want to surrender even more personal liberty to the Feds? For what?

But most of all.... OBEY the Constitution. Just because it is "good for you" or the "right thing", does NOT make it Constitutional. The road to hell is always paved with good intentions. Look at where the "New Deal", "War on Poverty", "War on Drugs", "The Great Society", etc got us... TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS in debt and we still have all the same problems.

We will reap what we sow... This is all history repeating itself.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 06-16-2009, 11:29 AM

I have noticed some people post sweet requests for everyone to have cancer screening, etc. Great sentiment but not a reality for the 50 million Americans without healthcare insurance.

When you have to choose between feeding your kids or getting a pap smear...well, I know the choice I would make.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 06-16-2009, 10:20 PM

Today I had to tell two employees of a client of mine they are terminated. Both are in their 50's. Both provide income...and sooo important...medical benefits for them and thier families.

Of course I told them about their COBRA rights. But I know...that after rent and food...there will not be the $600 to $800 per month to pay for the insurance. They will be fortunate if unemployment covers the rent.

Speaking of COBRA...do you know if your employer discontinues medical insurance - for whatever reason ---- including going out of business there is no COBRA? COBRA benefits are through the employer not the insurance company - so if the employer no longer has insurance - you no longer have COBRA rights.

I suppose some might think it the "fault" of these two people today who lost their jobs and their medical insurance...and the medical insurance of their families.

I don't.

**blue** · 06-16-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

I suppose some might think it the "fault" of these two people today who lost their jobs and their medical insurance...and the medical insurance of their families.

What?

**Nomilynn** · 06-16-2009, 11:57 PM

I was unemployed for 8 months. I had medical coverage that entire time. I was able to see my doctor, get blood work, go to the hospital if I needed, without worry. I am a diabetic, so I need to have regular work done frequently. That isn't my fault. It's also not my fault that I was laid off. Yet I should be denied medical care because of this?

The system here may not be perfect, but it's sure better than what is in the US. My parents lived there for 12 years, and I saw how hard it was for people. The longest I've had to wait to see my GP? 4 days. And that was because he was on holidays.

**RICHARD** · 06-17-2009, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Puckstop31

3.) Most importantly... Do you really want to surrender even more personal liberty to the Feds? For what?

Dude!

Again, the same people who are so very adamant about protecting the most intimate part of their lives-medical information-are willing to let the government sponsor a system that will allow that information to be put into a 'paperless' system that HC workers and hackers can access.

If identity theft is so prevalent, what will keep unauthorized people from hacking a system to get info that will allow them to steal an indentity for their own use?

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I had to laugh when I heard a story about a woman who took on an identity to have breast implants done. I think they did catch her, but if people are willing to go that far to have surgery, what are the rest capable of?

Rose,

The name is TUTTLE!

What is the weather like in Brazil this time of year?

**Edwina's Secretary** · 06-17-2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

Again, the same people who are so very adamant about protecting the most intimate part of their lives-medical information-are willing to let the government sponsor a system that will allow that information to be put into a 'paperless' system that HC workers and hackers can access.

If identity theft is so prevalent, what will keep unauthorized people from hacking a system to get info that will allow them to steal an indentity for their own use?

And this is different from today...how? Medical records are hacked into...and published in the National Enquirer all the time.

A doctor recently wrote a prescription for me on a piece of paper. It was for a sore on my ear. I was instructed to put the cream on my right leg twice a day. Bad handwriting or sloppy reading?

How does paper vs. paperless reduce mistakes? How does paper enhance security?

Was that "dude" or duh???