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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    It sometimes surprises me that we exepct our politicians and military (and everyone but us somehow) to behave better than the average person does.

    The military is made up of ordinary citizen who have volunteered to do a particular job.

    Politicians are ordinary citizens who have volunteered to be elected to do a particular job.

    Neither group is made up of people who are better or worse than the rest of "us." They are just a sampling of "us."

    And some of "us" will obey an illegal order and some of "us" will not.

    Some of "us" will give an illegal order and some of "us" will not.

    We cannot expect more of "them" than we are willing to expect of "us."
    From the mister that made an example that the military shouldnt be held to a higher standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Hey great idea. No military has EVER needed civilian oversight. Nope, nope...NO MILITARY has EVER gone too far....
    Last edited by blue; 05-07-2009 at 10:30 PM. Reason: clarification, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    From the mister that made an example that the military shouldnt be held to a higher standard.
    "Trust, but verify"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    "Trust, but verify"
    Dont you mean. Товарищ, доверие, но проверяй.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy Pelosi
    As I said in my statement of December 9, 2007: 'I was briefed on interrogation techniques the (Bush) administration was considering using in the future. The administration advised that legal counsel for both the CIA and the Department of Justice had concluded that the techniques were legal.
    Source.

    So Liz, what did you find that contradicts Mrs Pelosi, on what constitutes torture?

    And ES, it seems we cant доверие Mrs Pelosi and we cant проверяй her stance either...
    Last edited by blue; 05-09-2009 at 09:53 PM. Reason: edited for ES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Dont you mean. Товарищ, доверие, но проверяй.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    No.
    So expound on what you where trying to say then.

    Because , Comrade, what you said was, доверие, и проверить.
    Last edited by blue; 05-09-2009 at 11:25 PM.
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    In this thread you have called me "mister" and "comrade."

    Too, too funny!

    You want me to expand on what I said...okay.

    I said "no."

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    I asked you to expound, not expand. Im sure you know the difference.

    You have called me much worse then Ma'am, or enemy.

    BTW,

    Trust, but Verify
    Originated from....

    Доверие, но проверяй.
    I guess its fitting for you to "quote" a communist party member.
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