No meds yet, thank god, knock on wood. I do believe both Jagger ans Alaska will need them, as Jag jumped of a 12 ' cliff when he was 8 months old, so I am guessing he will have joint problems there once he gets older, and Alaska was beaten pretty bad in the backend before we got her, she lays down real slow,but everything else is normal, so we are expecting that to happen as she ages.