Politics and religion.

**smokey the elder** · 03-31-2009, 11:04 AM

I consider "Faith" and "Dogma" to be two different things. To me, "faith" is the ability to accept the existence of something non-quantifiable, such as God. "Dogma" is all the baggage various organized religions use to control human beings. This is all STRICTLY my opinion.

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**lizbud** · 03-31-2009, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by smokey the elder

I consider "Faith" and "Dogma" to be two different things. To me, "faith" is the ability to accept the existence of something non-quantifiable, such as God. "Dogma" is all the baggage various organized religions use to control human beings. This is all STRICTLY my opinion.

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I think this is a important distinction. Thanks.

**RICHARD** · 03-31-2009, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by smokey the elder

I consider "Faith" and "Dogma" to be two different things. To me, "faith" is the ability to accept the existence of something non-quantifiable, such as God. "Dogma" is all the baggage various organized religions use to control human beings. This is all STRICTLY my opinion.

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So..... A Karma Ghia is a Volkswagen?

**Medusa** · 03-31-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by RICHARD

So..... A Karma Ghia is a Volkswagen?

Karma's a chameleon. Everyone knows that. Duh.

**RICHARD** · 04-02-2009, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Medusa

Karma's a chameleon. Everyone knows that. Duh.

LOL, good one!

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I had to laugh at the coverage of the Queens hugging each other at Buckingham. Like who really cares if it was against protocol? That QE has a purse that I KNOW HAS a slab o' lead in it, If she was offended, she would have put it thru it paces.

And anyways, WFG is it to drag an effing spouse to something like that?
Give her a credit card and tell her you are going on a business meeting.
MO took for aides with her-She is one of us.

Dang did I just go incontinent?

Hey,

Can we work out a deal where France gets our FL, and the Queen-can we get Carla Brunei?

We can split 'ownership' with Great Britain.

No wonder she didn't show up....

Politics suck, send her to Fashion Week in NYC!

**Edwina's Secretary** · 04-02-2009, 09:19 PM

I have gone along on certain business trips of my husband and he has gone on certain business trips of mine -- mostly when spouses are included but sometimes just for fun.

It is what partners do.

**blue** · 04-02-2009, 10:55 PM

Geese RICHARD, Im sure the First Lady paid her own air fair and the cost of the iPod for the Queen.

**Edwina's Secretary** · 04-02-2009, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by blue

Geese RICHARD, Im sure the First Lady paid her own air fair and the cost of the iPod for the Queen.

Geez blue...I am sure Michelle Obama is the FIRST EVER wife of a president who traveled with (or without) her husband on official business at government expense..(including air fair or even air fare!)

And I am sure that this is the FIRST TIME EVER a gift has been given to a head of government of another country and has been paid for by the US government.

Silly boys.

**RICHARD** · 04-03-2009, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by blue

Geese RICHARD, Im sure the First Lady paid her own air fair and the cost of the iPod for the Queen.

An effing iPod?
I guess classy is put on hold for the next 4 years.
Why not a DVD player with the X-Men trilogy?

Shoulda had Nancy Pelosi with them too. They could have saved money by all jamming into the smaller and cheaper ride!

Hey, NP could have taken her four aides and all the stuff needed to make her look human.