Good on you Obama.....

[Edwina's Secretary]

Much of the money would be grant money - not spent by government scientist but by grants to universities and other institutions to do the research.

[Alysser]

He is certainly a savior. 100% in agreement with Carole!

[Puckstop31]

Much of the money would be grant money - not spent by government scientist but by grants to universities and other institutions to do the research.

Yeah.... THAT makes all the difference. You are so cute when on the ropes. I certainly admire you dedication. You would have been a GREAT Soviet.



Even you should know all government handouts come with those nasty strings. Imagine the power government gets over us once they own our health care?

No Big Macs for you.
No Beer for you.
No FREEDOM for you. Its too expensive.


Lemmings....

[Edwina's Secretary]

Anybody familiar with polio? Worried every summer in particular about your kids catching polio? Hanging garlic around your neck to ward off polio? Know anyone under 50 with polio?

If not, you can thank that evil, wasteful, incompetent government - National Institutes of Health and vaious research universities which....with help from the evil, wasteful incompetent government came up with the vaccine that virtually eliminated polio in this country.

I remember as a kid when the vaccine first came out -- going with my family and neighbors to the local grade school where we were given a sugar cube with the vaccine -- all done and coordinated and paid for by that evil, wasteful, incompetent government.

Now some might see it as interferring with freedom - freedom to die or be crippled by polio.

I see it as government doing its job - protecting its people.

[Grace]

Anybody familiar with polio? Worried every summer in particular about your kids catching polio? Hanging garlic around your neck to ward off polio? Know anyone under 50 with polio?

If not, you can thank that evil, wasteful, incompetent government - National Institutes of Health and vaious research universities which....with help from the evil, wasteful incompetent government came up with the vaccine that virtually eliminated polio in this country.

I remember as a kid when the vaccine first came out -- going with my family and neighbors to the local grade school where we were given a sugar cube with the vaccine -- all done and coordinated and paid for by that evil, wasteful, incompetent government.

Now some might see it as interferring with freedom - freedom to die or be crippled by polio.

I see it as government doing its job - protecting its people.

I, too, remember that time very well.

[blue]

[COUGH]March of Dimes[/COUGH]

[Edwina's Secretary]

[COUGH]March of Dimes[/COUGH]

Better get some water for that cough Blue. Water that you can safely drink thanks to that evil, wasteful, incompetent government!

[blue]

Better check your history, it wasnt big gov that cured polio.

Im on a well, big gov dosent supply my water.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Better check your history, it wasnt big gov that cured polio.

Im on a well, big gov dosent supply my water.

Ditto at ya! Once again...I did not say the government cured polio. But the government contributed to finding a cure for it. You see...the National Institutes of Health is part of the Federal Government. And grants to universities to enable them to do research - yup that nasty ole government!

So you never drink water away from home?

[Puckstop31]

Anybody familiar with polio? Worried every summer in particular about your kids catching polio? Hanging garlic around your neck to ward off polio? Know anyone under 50 with polio?

If not, you can thank that evil, wasteful, incompetent government - National Institutes of Health and vaious research universities which....with help from the evil, wasteful incompetent government came up with the vaccine that virtually eliminated polio in this country.

I remember as a kid when the vaccine first came out -- going with my family and neighbors to the local grade school where we were given a sugar cube with the vaccine -- all done and coordinated and paid for by that evil, wasteful, incompetent government.

Now some might see it as interferring with freedom - freedom to die or be crippled by polio.

I see it as government doing its job - protecting its people.

First post of the ES/Puck peace accord... I hope.


A, sadly, rare success story of government intervention. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Government is wasteful and generally incompetent, but I don't think evil is a word I would use, at least not yet.

But to the bold part. This is where you are I are miles apart. I do not believe government's job is to protect us. Protecting you is YOUR job. You have to see that with the government's "protection" comes dependance upon that very government. I see it as much akin to the Mob and how they use "protection" schemes. Dependance is not liberty and liberty is what sets us apart from all the other nations of the Earth. We were founded on the principal of individual liberty and that with such freedom, man can truly excel. And you know what? We DID. Of course there were bumps along the way, there always will be. Now, as our nation ages the people look more and more to the government to help them when things go bad... Look what it is getting us...

Think about it from your personal perspective. You are a smart person. Do you want some dimwit government employee dictating to you what procedue you can have done? How far you can drive you car? What you can or cannot eat? The more we depend on the government for these things, the more enslaved we become.

Now, back to your orginal point here... Yes, government can do good things. But I am not willing to pay, because when you say government pays, WE are the ones paying, for the very poor success to failure ratio government produces.

I comes down to this... Do you want to be free, or do you want guaranteed food, jobs, housing, 'safety', etc?